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			<title><![CDATA[UN climate change panel to face Himalaya error verdict]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 01:17:35 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi All,<br />
I spotted this this morning, regarding the "verdict" into the IPCC's "possibly by the year 2350" rewritten as "by 2035",  "error".<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11126597" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11126597</a><br />
<span style="color: #FF0000;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">UN climate change panel to face Himalaya error verdict</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">BBC News<br />
30 August 2010</span><br />
<br />
Excerpts,<br />
" <span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"> An international committee reviewing the "processes and procedures" of <br />
the UN's climate science panel is set to report on Monday.<br />
<br />
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has faced mounting pressure <br />
over errors in its last major assessment of climate science in 2007. <br />
<br />
The review was overseen by the Inter-Academy Council, <br />
which brings together bodies such as the UK's Royal Society. </span> </span><br />
<br />
and,<br />
<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><br />
Referring to the Himalayas error at an IAC session in Montreal in June,<br />
former IPCC chair Professor Robert Watson told the committee: <br />
 "The IPCC needs to find a mechanism so that if something needs to be corrected <br />
there is a rapid way to get a correction made." </span> </span><br />
<br />
Hmmm, that could be a busy mechanism..<br />
<br />
WUWT has also recently posted regarding this subject area.<br />
<a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/29/mckitrick-fix-the-ipcc-process/" target="_blank">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/29/mc...c-process/</a> <br />
<span style="color: #FF0000;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"> McKitrick: Fix the IPCC process </span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Wattsupwiththat?<br />
August 29, 2010 </span><br />
<br />
Excerpt<br />
" <span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">That Lead Authors are able to insert evidence and rewrite the text after the close of review <br />
makes a mockery of the idea that the IPCC reports are peer reviewed, and <br />
undermines the claim that they contain the consensus of experts.</span></span> "<br />
<br />
I wonder if there is, or if it is even possible, to have a mechanism that could deal with this sort of behaviour,<br />
that appears to all intents and purposes to be "built in", "accepted", and / or "normal" at the IPCC.<br />
<br />
The above led me to Ross McKitrick's Fix the IPCC process essay in the financial post, WUWT mentioned / linked to.<br />
<a href="http://opinion.financialpost.com/2010/08/27/fix-the-ipcc-process/" target="_blank">http://opinion.financialpost.com/2010/08...c-process/</a><br />
<br />
and from there I noticed this, the award winners of,<br />
<a href="http://opinion.financialpost.com/tag/the-rubber-duckies/" target="_blank">http://opinion.financialpost.com/tag/the...r-duckies/</a><br />
<span style="color: #FF0000;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Junk Science Week: The Rubber Duckies</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Financial post.<br />
June 23, 2010</span><br />
<br />
Particularly,<br />
<a href="http://opinion.financialpost.com/2010/06/18/the-rubber-duckies-for-services-to-the-climate-coverup/" target="_blank">http://opinion.financialpost.com/2010/06...e-coverup/</a><br />
<span style="color: #FF0000;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">The Rubber Duckies: For services to the climate coverup</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Financial post.<br />
Peter Foster  June 18,</span><br />
Excerpt,<br />
" <span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">The Rubber Duck award in the climate category goes to Lord Oxburgh,<br />
who gave “peer review” a whole new meaning in rushing out the first whitewash of the Climategate scandal. <br />
He headed an inquiry into the scientific integrity of the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, <br />
from which the emails emerged, and concluded in record time that there was <br />
nothing to see here. Move along please.</span></span> "<br />
<br />
<br />
"<span style="font-weight: bold;">nothing to see here. Move along please</span>", I wonder if we will hear that again today....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi All,<br />
I spotted this this morning, regarding the "verdict" into the IPCC's "possibly by the year 2350" rewritten as "by 2035",  "error".<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11126597" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11126597</a><br />
<span style="color: #FF0000;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">UN climate change panel to face Himalaya error verdict</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">BBC News<br />
30 August 2010</span><br />
<br />
Excerpts,<br />
" <span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"> An international committee reviewing the "processes and procedures" of <br />
the UN's climate science panel is set to report on Monday.<br />
<br />
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has faced mounting pressure <br />
over errors in its last major assessment of climate science in 2007. <br />
<br />
The review was overseen by the Inter-Academy Council, <br />
which brings together bodies such as the UK's Royal Society. </span> </span><br />
<br />
and,<br />
<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><br />
Referring to the Himalayas error at an IAC session in Montreal in June,<br />
former IPCC chair Professor Robert Watson told the committee: <br />
 "The IPCC needs to find a mechanism so that if something needs to be corrected <br />
there is a rapid way to get a correction made." </span> </span><br />
<br />
Hmmm, that could be a busy mechanism..<br />
<br />
WUWT has also recently posted regarding this subject area.<br />
<a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/29/mckitrick-fix-the-ipcc-process/" target="_blank">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/29/mc...c-process/</a> <br />
<span style="color: #FF0000;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"> McKitrick: Fix the IPCC process </span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Wattsupwiththat?<br />
August 29, 2010 </span><br />
<br />
Excerpt<br />
" <span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">That Lead Authors are able to insert evidence and rewrite the text after the close of review <br />
makes a mockery of the idea that the IPCC reports are peer reviewed, and <br />
undermines the claim that they contain the consensus of experts.</span></span> "<br />
<br />
I wonder if there is, or if it is even possible, to have a mechanism that could deal with this sort of behaviour,<br />
that appears to all intents and purposes to be "built in", "accepted", and / or "normal" at the IPCC.<br />
<br />
The above led me to Ross McKitrick's Fix the IPCC process essay in the financial post, WUWT mentioned / linked to.<br />
<a href="http://opinion.financialpost.com/2010/08/27/fix-the-ipcc-process/" target="_blank">http://opinion.financialpost.com/2010/08...c-process/</a><br />
<br />
and from there I noticed this, the award winners of,<br />
<a href="http://opinion.financialpost.com/tag/the-rubber-duckies/" target="_blank">http://opinion.financialpost.com/tag/the...r-duckies/</a><br />
<span style="color: #FF0000;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Junk Science Week: The Rubber Duckies</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Financial post.<br />
June 23, 2010</span><br />
<br />
Particularly,<br />
<a href="http://opinion.financialpost.com/2010/06/18/the-rubber-duckies-for-services-to-the-climate-coverup/" target="_blank">http://opinion.financialpost.com/2010/06...e-coverup/</a><br />
<span style="color: #FF0000;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">The Rubber Duckies: For services to the climate coverup</span></span></span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Financial post.<br />
Peter Foster  June 18,</span><br />
Excerpt,<br />
" <span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">The Rubber Duck award in the climate category goes to Lord Oxburgh,<br />
who gave “peer review” a whole new meaning in rushing out the first whitewash of the Climategate scandal. <br />
He headed an inquiry into the scientific integrity of the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, <br />
from which the emails emerged, and concluded in record time that there was <br />
nothing to see here. Move along please.</span></span> "<br />
<br />
<br />
"<span style="font-weight: bold;">nothing to see here. Move along please</span>", I wonder if we will hear that again today....]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Union Of Concerned Scientists (UCS) Hard At Work]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-886.html</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:23:23 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Article at American Thinker concerning UCS<br />
<br />
"........the Union of Concerned Scientists has set up, instead of a network to coordinate talking points, a media alert request page that could end up being an intimidation system against certain journalists. At the UCS web site, we are instructed to "Monitor the print and broadcast media outlets in your area and alert us to misrepresentations about global warming". <br />
<br />
The complete article is here:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/silencing_global_warming_criti.html" target="_blank">http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010...criti.html</a><br />
<br />
UCS website is : <a href="http://www.ucsusa.org" target="_blank">http://www.ucsusa.org</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Article at American Thinker concerning UCS<br />
<br />
"........the Union of Concerned Scientists has set up, instead of a network to coordinate talking points, a media alert request page that could end up being an intimidation system against certain journalists. At the UCS web site, we are instructed to "Monitor the print and broadcast media outlets in your area and alert us to misrepresentations about global warming". <br />
<br />
The complete article is here:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/silencing_global_warming_criti.html" target="_blank">http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010...criti.html</a><br />
<br />
UCS website is : <a href="http://www.ucsusa.org" target="_blank">http://www.ucsusa.org</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Greetings from American Forum]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:16:13 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[My name is Jacob Hall, and while this message isn't strictly an introduction, it certainly doubles as one.  Before I begin, I'll say that it is not my intention to offend the owner of this forum with this proposal, but I don't believe it will offend either.<br />
<br />
I am working on an online project called American Forum that aims to achieve two things.  The first aspect of the project concerns an information database of issues that are important or relevant in the United States.  Such issues would fall into categories such as social, economic, and environmental, which would include (you guessed it) global warming.  The goal of this side of American Forum is to provide extensive and accurate details about issues in a way that does not overwhelm a casual reader.  The "coverage" of specific issues is NOT aimed at promoting any one side, but rather to explain the background behind all opinions on the matter and to present ALL the facts.<br />
<br />
The second goal of the project is to create an environment where US citizens can have an open dialogue about these issues, and discuss their concerns.  There are many far-off goals of the forum side of the website, including the ability for people to craft (with the aid of paid legal staff) and support (via online signature) legislation at the state and federal level.<br />
<br />
What this has to do with these forums I will now explain.  I've begun working on this project only in the past few weeks, and I've started with global warming.  It took me only a few hours of work before I realized that the effort that would have to go into providing a full and balanced account of global warming could take one person months or very easily years.  I am here, therefore, to offer a proposition to the members of this forum.<br />
<br />
As I mentioned above, it is not the goal of American Forum to advance the agenda of one side of any particular issue, but rather to explain why each side believes what it does, in order to reach the always out-of-reach common ground compromise that democracy lives on.  For the articles concerning global warming, that means providing a full account of the science that continues to sustain skeptical attitudes towards AGW, and ultimately to make that science and those doubts answerable before the AGW advocates (and vice versa) in a professional and intelligent forum.  The goal is to create a forum for dialogue where skeptics and advocates can talk to each other, not past each other.<br />
<br />
My request, then, is a sort of call to arms to the users of this forum.  I'm trying to put together a group of people to collaborate on a series of global warming articles that are factually accurate and representative of skeptics as well as advocates, which is where I'm asking for your help.  This will be an intensive effort that requires expertise and objectivity.  Anyone who agrees to help will be committing themselves to helping not only explain the opinions of skeptics, but what science there is to back those opinions up, what the implications of that science are, and perhaps most crucially be able to see what limitations exist that prevent said science from being a universal disproof of AGW.  It, as I have come to realize, is not the work of amateurs, and I am hoping for people with professional, or at the very least academic, experience in the fields of science that concern global warming, namely meteorology, geology, oceanography, chemistry, physics, and astro-physics.  I want to be honest with anyone who considers the offer; it will involve amassing dozens of scientific sources and fact checking them, often alongside AGW advocates.<br />
<br />
My last pitch to you is that this project, American Forum, has intrigued everyone I've spoken to about it.  I think it represents something that people are hungry for in the information age, which is good information.  I can spend a week researching the skepticism behind global warming, then another week researching the proof behind it, and find "conclusive" proof the whole way along.  What I feel many people want is a place where they know they can go to see all the information without having to worry that it will be undercut a week later by some new fact, and they want to do it without having to spend five years wading through myth, vested interests, and half-truth sources.  Global warming is an issue that seems important to most of you, and though this is an offer for volunteer work, I hope you see it as a chance to expose the truth of the issue on a medium that will hopefully be used by millions some day.<br />
<br />
Thanks for sticking with me this far, and I'm eager to hear your thoughts.<br />
<br />
Jacob Hall]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[My name is Jacob Hall, and while this message isn't strictly an introduction, it certainly doubles as one.  Before I begin, I'll say that it is not my intention to offend the owner of this forum with this proposal, but I don't believe it will offend either.<br />
<br />
I am working on an online project called American Forum that aims to achieve two things.  The first aspect of the project concerns an information database of issues that are important or relevant in the United States.  Such issues would fall into categories such as social, economic, and environmental, which would include (you guessed it) global warming.  The goal of this side of American Forum is to provide extensive and accurate details about issues in a way that does not overwhelm a casual reader.  The "coverage" of specific issues is NOT aimed at promoting any one side, but rather to explain the background behind all opinions on the matter and to present ALL the facts.<br />
<br />
The second goal of the project is to create an environment where US citizens can have an open dialogue about these issues, and discuss their concerns.  There are many far-off goals of the forum side of the website, including the ability for people to craft (with the aid of paid legal staff) and support (via online signature) legislation at the state and federal level.<br />
<br />
What this has to do with these forums I will now explain.  I've begun working on this project only in the past few weeks, and I've started with global warming.  It took me only a few hours of work before I realized that the effort that would have to go into providing a full and balanced account of global warming could take one person months or very easily years.  I am here, therefore, to offer a proposition to the members of this forum.<br />
<br />
As I mentioned above, it is not the goal of American Forum to advance the agenda of one side of any particular issue, but rather to explain why each side believes what it does, in order to reach the always out-of-reach common ground compromise that democracy lives on.  For the articles concerning global warming, that means providing a full account of the science that continues to sustain skeptical attitudes towards AGW, and ultimately to make that science and those doubts answerable before the AGW advocates (and vice versa) in a professional and intelligent forum.  The goal is to create a forum for dialogue where skeptics and advocates can talk to each other, not past each other.<br />
<br />
My request, then, is a sort of call to arms to the users of this forum.  I'm trying to put together a group of people to collaborate on a series of global warming articles that are factually accurate and representative of skeptics as well as advocates, which is where I'm asking for your help.  This will be an intensive effort that requires expertise and objectivity.  Anyone who agrees to help will be committing themselves to helping not only explain the opinions of skeptics, but what science there is to back those opinions up, what the implications of that science are, and perhaps most crucially be able to see what limitations exist that prevent said science from being a universal disproof of AGW.  It, as I have come to realize, is not the work of amateurs, and I am hoping for people with professional, or at the very least academic, experience in the fields of science that concern global warming, namely meteorology, geology, oceanography, chemistry, physics, and astro-physics.  I want to be honest with anyone who considers the offer; it will involve amassing dozens of scientific sources and fact checking them, often alongside AGW advocates.<br />
<br />
My last pitch to you is that this project, American Forum, has intrigued everyone I've spoken to about it.  I think it represents something that people are hungry for in the information age, which is good information.  I can spend a week researching the skepticism behind global warming, then another week researching the proof behind it, and find "conclusive" proof the whole way along.  What I feel many people want is a place where they know they can go to see all the information without having to worry that it will be undercut a week later by some new fact, and they want to do it without having to spend five years wading through myth, vested interests, and half-truth sources.  Global warming is an issue that seems important to most of you, and though this is an offer for volunteer work, I hope you see it as a chance to expose the truth of the issue on a medium that will hopefully be used by millions some day.<br />
<br />
Thanks for sticking with me this far, and I'm eager to hear your thoughts.<br />
<br />
Jacob Hall]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Denis G. Rancourt comment]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-883.html</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:41:39 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[This guy claims to be an anarchist. I like the way he writes.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://activistteacher.blogspot.com/2010/08/is-burning-of-fossil-fuel-significant.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Is the burning of fossil fuel a significant planetary activity?</span></span></a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;">by <span style="font-weight: bold;">Denis G. Rancourt</span></span><br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>So, on the global scale of things fossil fuel burning energy release is miniscule (8% of 0.07% = 0.006%).<br />
<br />
Given all the fuss that is made about the present rate of fossil fuel burning (2010; 0.8 x 10^13 kg-C/y where 10^13 = 10,000,000,000,000 with thirteen zeros), it is important to keep in mind that this represents an amount of CO2 release comparable to or somewhat less than the CO2 released by simple breathing from humankind and its domestic animals. The combined biomass of humankind and its domestic animals (cattle, sheep, goats, chickens, pigs, pets, etc.) is in turn estimated to be only 0.04% of Earth’s living biomass (all expressed as kilograms of carbon, kg-C), which is a lot more CO2-producing breathing. (Ants, for example, are estimated to represent ten to one hundred times the biomass of humankind and ants can be argued to have “transformed” the planet and its ecology far more than humans.) </blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This guy claims to be an anarchist. I like the way he writes.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://activistteacher.blogspot.com/2010/08/is-burning-of-fossil-fuel-significant.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Is the burning of fossil fuel a significant planetary activity?</span></span></a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-style: italic;">by <span style="font-weight: bold;">Denis G. Rancourt</span></span><br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>So, on the global scale of things fossil fuel burning energy release is miniscule (8% of 0.07% = 0.006%).<br />
<br />
Given all the fuss that is made about the present rate of fossil fuel burning (2010; 0.8 x 10^13 kg-C/y where 10^13 = 10,000,000,000,000 with thirteen zeros), it is important to keep in mind that this represents an amount of CO2 release comparable to or somewhat less than the CO2 released by simple breathing from humankind and its domestic animals. The combined biomass of humankind and its domestic animals (cattle, sheep, goats, chickens, pigs, pets, etc.) is in turn estimated to be only 0.04% of Earth’s living biomass (all expressed as kilograms of carbon, kg-C), which is a lot more CO2-producing breathing. (Ants, for example, are estimated to represent ten to one hundred times the biomass of humankind and ants can be argued to have “transformed” the planet and its ecology far more than humans.) </blockquote>
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			<title><![CDATA[Site problems?]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-882.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:40:00 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[The last few days I have not been able to bring up this site.  To my relief the site came up yesterday, but I have not been able to log on.  Today I tried again.  Still could not log on.  I tried to leave a message in the guest forum.  Somehow I managed worm my way in.  I don't know exactly how.  I am going to log off and try again. <br />
<br />
I was not successful in logging in again.  Again I went to the guest forum to post.  I received a message.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Authorization code mismatch  </blockquote>
  <br />
<br />
But, again I noticed I was logged on when I didn't log on.  <br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>MyBB has experienced an internal SQL error and cannot continue.<br />
<br />
SQL Error:<br />
    1054 - Unknown column 'remember' in 'field list'<br />
Query:<br />
    SELECT uid,username,password,salt,loginkey,remember,passwordconvert,passwordconverttype&#8203; FROM mybb_users WHERE username='goose52' LIMIT 1 </blockquote>
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This is the message I get when I attempt to log on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[The last few days I have not been able to bring up this site.  To my relief the site came up yesterday, but I have not been able to log on.  Today I tried again.  Still could not log on.  I tried to leave a message in the guest forum.  Somehow I managed worm my way in.  I don't know exactly how.  I am going to log off and try again. <br />
<br />
I was not successful in logging in again.  Again I went to the guest forum to post.  I received a message.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Authorization code mismatch  </blockquote>
  <br />
<br />
But, again I noticed I was logged on when I didn't log on.  <br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>MyBB has experienced an internal SQL error and cannot continue.<br />
<br />
SQL Error:<br />
    1054 - Unknown column 'remember' in 'field list'<br />
Query:<br />
    SELECT uid,username,password,salt,loginkey,remember,passwordconvert,passwordconverttype&#8203; FROM mybb_users WHERE username='goose52' LIMIT 1 </blockquote>
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<br />
This is the message I get when I attempt to log on.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Is the Moon falling apart?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:42:18 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Increasing numbers of cracks have begun to appear on the Moon<br />
<br />
Freshly discovered scars on the face of the Moon reveal that this rocky satellite is shrinking at a relatively rapid pace, say researchers based in Germany and the US. Images collected by NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter show surface faulting that, they say, reflects significant contraction in the Moon's recent geological past.<br />
<br />
The research team used the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC), launched in 2009 aboard the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, the first spacecraft to be launched as part of NASA’s "return to the Moon" initiative. It contains three different cameras designed to deal with both narrow and wide angle high-resolution photography. This high level of detail revealed 14 lunar landforms known as lobate scarps, similar to thrust faults on Earth that result from compressional forces such as plate tectonics.<br />
<br />
Half of the located scarps are at high latitudes (±60°), proving that they are globally distributed and not clustered near the equator as previously thought. These factors indicate "recent contraction of the whole Moon, likely due to cooling of the lunar interior," says Thomas Watters of the Smithsonian Institution’s National Air and Space Museum, lead author of the paper. </blockquote>
<br />
<a href="http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/43534" target="_blank">http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/43534</a><br />
<br />
NASA will surely get more funding to research this, after all, it could affect climate on Earth sometime in the future or break into pieces and rain down on us.  Of course, it could be the lack of IR radiation from the Earth due to the GHG from burning of hydrocarbons that has caused it to cool.  Just tell the politicians that the cracks are fresh-looking (don't mention the time scales - hide the decline) and assure them that Man is to blame.  Then sit back and watch your bank balance swell.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Sorry, I just couldn't resist that out-burst.</span><br />
<br />
<img src="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Big Grin" title="Big Grin" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Increasing numbers of cracks have begun to appear on the Moon<br />
<br />
Freshly discovered scars on the face of the Moon reveal that this rocky satellite is shrinking at a relatively rapid pace, say researchers based in Germany and the US. Images collected by NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter show surface faulting that, they say, reflects significant contraction in the Moon's recent geological past.<br />
<br />
The research team used the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC), launched in 2009 aboard the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, the first spacecraft to be launched as part of NASA’s "return to the Moon" initiative. It contains three different cameras designed to deal with both narrow and wide angle high-resolution photography. This high level of detail revealed 14 lunar landforms known as lobate scarps, similar to thrust faults on Earth that result from compressional forces such as plate tectonics.<br />
<br />
Half of the located scarps are at high latitudes (±60°), proving that they are globally distributed and not clustered near the equator as previously thought. These factors indicate "recent contraction of the whole Moon, likely due to cooling of the lunar interior," says Thomas Watters of the Smithsonian Institution’s National Air and Space Museum, lead author of the paper. </blockquote>
<br />
<a href="http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/43534" target="_blank">http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/43534</a><br />
<br />
NASA will surely get more funding to research this, after all, it could affect climate on Earth sometime in the future or break into pieces and rain down on us.  Of course, it could be the lack of IR radiation from the Earth due to the GHG from burning of hydrocarbons that has caused it to cool.  Just tell the politicians that the cracks are fresh-looking (don't mention the time scales - hide the decline) and assure them that Man is to blame.  Then sit back and watch your bank balance swell.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Sorry, I just couldn't resist that out-burst.</span><br />
<br />
<img src="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Big Grin" title="Big Grin" />]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Back in business!]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 17:42:06 -0500</pubDate>
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<br />
With generous help from the forum founder Steve LeMaster,we are back in business!<br />
<br />
My server had made some upgrades without warning and made my old forum version obsolete.I have now upgraded the forum and all is well.<br />
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Please accept my apologies.<br />
<br />
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<br />
With generous help from the forum founder Steve LeMaster,we are back in business!<br />
<br />
My server had made some upgrades without warning and made my old forum version obsolete.I have now upgraded the forum and all is well.<br />
<br />
Please accept my apologies.<br />
<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[A Study of Gases in Arctic &#x26; Antarctic Firn]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:49:40 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[If you have not seen this paper, you may find it worth a read:<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;"><br />
A Study of Gases in Arctic &amp; Antarctic Firn<br />
An Honors Paper for the Department of Physics and Astronomy<br />
<br />
by Eric Douglas Sofen</span><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~esofen/files/Honors_Paper_EricSofen.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~esofen/...cSofen.pdf</a><br />
<br />
It is more enlightened than most.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[If you have not seen this paper, you may find it worth a read:<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;"><br />
A Study of Gases in Arctic &amp; Antarctic Firn<br />
An Honors Paper for the Department of Physics and Astronomy<br />
<br />
by Eric Douglas Sofen</span><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~esofen/files/Honors_Paper_EricSofen.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~esofen/...cSofen.pdf</a><br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Nasif Sabag Nahle - Archive.]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-877.html</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:03:20 -0500</pubDate>
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<br />
I hope more papers are to follow from Nasif.<br />
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I hope more papers are to follow from Nasif.<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[BBC and system bias - RCE Wyndham.]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:50:37 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi All,<br />
Another bueaty forwarded to me by Hans Shreuder. <br />
AND, a name some of us "know" here, Rupert Wyndham.....<br />
He's a neighbour of Richard S Courtney.<br />
Oh, how I'd like to listen in to their conversations whilst cutting the hedges.<br />
<br />
Hans forwarded,<br />
<br />
FYI.<br />
 <br />
pdf at <a href="http://www.tech-know.eu/uploads/Rupert16082010.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.tech-know.eu/uploads/Rupert16082010.pdf</a><br />
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-----<br />
<br />
16 August 2010. <br />
<br />
Mr. Bruce Vander<br />
Secretary to the Editorial Standards Committee<br />
BBC Trust<br />
180 Great Portland Street<br />
London W1W 5QZ<br />
<br />
Dear Mr. Vander<br />
<br />
"<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">The hard hitting investigative programmes no longer exist. The BBC is an arm of the government.</span></span>" Frederick Forsyth, Sunday Telegraph 15 August 2010<br />
<br />
Notwithstanding the receipt of a disreputable letter dated 6 July from your colleague, Francesca O'Brien, I have since been advised by Michael Fadda that my letter of 14 April 2008, in which I alleged systemic bias within the Corporation's news coverage of global warming/climate change will now be considered by the Committee at its meeting in September. Mind you, this is far from being the only topic in respect of which the BBC's prejudice is brazen. In any event, though, good! After all, by the time of the September meeting only two and a half years will have elapsed. Given the habitually nimble footed performance of a Committee dedicated to “Getting the best out of the BBC for licence fee payers”, it must be recognised, I suppose, that such levels of responsiveness have now to be regarded as normative. Of course, by contrast, it expects any who question it to respond within ten working days, which is probably not unreasonable given that they are not called upon to react against the constipated bureaucratic inertia which typifies everything connected with the BBC. On the other hand, they do have to pay for it, do they not? And how!<br />
<br />
Still, back to business. There can be absolutely no question that the BBC is systemically biased in its reportage of climate change. Not only have I and others provided copious examples of completely one sided reporting, it is a simple fact, attested on almost a daily basis, that the perception of a wide swathe of its audience regard any claim to impartiality that it makes to be laughable and scandalous. As such, the Corporation is daily in breach of at least three of its own Editorial Standards, those relating to the preservation of impartiality, to careful cross checking in furtherance of maintaining accuracy and to the proscription on insinuating personal opinion into news dispatches. The fact that such malfeasance is the subject of frequent press comment as well as of public conviction provides, simply of itself, unassailable evidence of the truth of the allegation. In short, if enough people, who are divergent and unconnected and thus not simply self-selecting, see the BBC as biased, then biased it most surely is.<br />
<br />
On 30 July I received an email from a climatologist of distinction and prodigious achievement. In that respect, of course, he stands in marked contrast to the succession of talking heads, who are routinely deployed by the BBC, and who are almost invariably described without inconvenient differentiation as "<span style="font-weight: bold;">scientists</span>”. Naturally, none of these, nor even my correspondent, can begin to compete with the penetrating scientific insights vouchsafed the Editor of the Today programme, the mellifluously monikered Ceri Thomas, by virtue of his epic BA in <span style="font-weight: bold;">Creative Music Technology</span> conferred (with acclamation, no doubt) by a university ranking No. 51 in the country. <br />
<br />
Still, we mustn’t linger. However, given his personal involvement in massaging “science” reportage for the benefit of the media, it seemed pertinent in passing to touch upon his credentials for this task, not to mention that of editing the BBC’s flagship morning news round-up. Returning to the main point, I consider it appropriate to advise you of the email, because its contents speak to the issues addressed above, as well as to those in the formal complaint embraced in my letter to Stephanie Harris over two years ago. It contained the following link, which the ESC is invited to visit:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2010/07/propaganda-tunes.html" target="_blank">http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2010/07/p...tunes.html</a><br />
<br />
Until two weeks ago, this blog was wholly unknown to me, but it plainly lends weight to the assertions made in the foregoing paragraph. More than that, in fact; it is conclusive. If someone has taken the trouble to create a blog for the express purpose of tracking instances of bias on the BBC, with which many licence fee payers otherwise unknown to each other agree, then ipso facto there is a deep and systemic problem. It is, therefore, appropriate that it should be included as an addendum to my letter. Neither, as Biased BBC makes clear, is the perception of bias exclusively an external phenomenon. Household names within the Corporation itself recognise the validity of the charge. Thus, on 21 October 2006, we have Andrew Marr pronouncing:<br />
<br />
 "<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities and gay people. <br />
It has a liberal bias not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias.</span></span>"…..<br />
<br />
For “cultural liberal bias” read “left wing”. Speaking personally, I don’t mind a left wing tendency provided that (a) it is acknowledged and (b) it does not interfere with legally mandated Editorial Standards, in particular those already itemised above. There is, though, always a problem with “left wing”, is there not? It is its invariable association with a pernicious corollary, namely the self-preening and delusional conceit that adherents are the inheritors of a uniquely sensitive ethical sensibility, which confers upon them the right, nay the duty, to dictate to their fellows. That manifestation of narcissism is one which I and many others reject. For journalists (so-called) of this stamp, Marble Arch is a more suitable location than the precincts of the BBC. <br />
<br />
Then, famously, on 31 January 2007 we have Jeremy Paxman taking up the baton to develop the same theme:<br />
<br />
"<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">People who know a lot more than I do may be right when they claim that [global warming] is the consequence of our own behaviour. <br />
I assume that this is why the BBC's coverage of the issue abandoned the pretence of impartiality long ago…………...</span></span>"<br />
<br />
He is quite right but then, unlike the BBC’s cadre of environmental/scientific journalists in particular but not exclusively, he is a man of integrity and talent. This makes him worth a second quote:<br />
<br />
"<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">But the bigger question is whether the BBC itself has a future. Working for it has always been a bit like <br />
working in Stalin’s Russia, with one five year plan, one resoundingly empty slogan after another. <br />
One BBC, Making It Happen, Creative Futures, they all dissolve into one great vacuous blur. <br />
I can’t even recall what the current one is…………..</span></span>” The James McTaggart Memorial Lecture, 24 August 2007.<br />
<br />
He could, of course, have framed his central question slightly differently. He could with equal justification have asked: “Does the BBC itself merit a future?” The answer would have been, and remains, a monosyllabic and unequivocal “No”.<br />
<br />
Turning next to your own activities, by which is meant those of the ESC, Dr. John Gahan has kindly been keeping me abreast of exchanges he has been having with it. Both of us have independently noted the discrepancy between the time graciously allowed for communications addressed the ESC and its own dilatory responses. We and others have also noted the obvious explanation for this, namely the device of a stratagem specifically designed to discourage questioning/criticism, which I have sought to capture and summarise in my reply to his last email:<br />
<br />
Ten days for complainants. Two years for the BBC, and even that's not guaranteed! <br />
As Booker has written "<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">an Augean stew of low grade intellectual and moral corruption.</span></span>".<br />
<br />
Lastly, in the latter part of June I notified you of a weather prediction for approximately one month ahead. This had been sent to me by WeatherAction and, amongst other things, informed by plausible physics, it forecast severe weather in the UK, including flooding. That prediction turned out to be usefully accurate. The Met Office, relying upon AGW inspired climate models, failed completely to anticipate this change in the weather until a mere two or three days before. Were this simply a “one off”, it would have no significance. It was not. On the contrary, it was part of a pattern in which Met Office predictions have been totally confounded by WeatherAction – the “BBQ summer”, a mild winter in 2009; I could go on. I sent you/the BBC the July WeatherAction forecast precisely to illustrate the point, namely the reliability of prediction unencumbered by bogus science. The fact that the BBC ignores such evidence right under its nose is further proof of its inherent prejudice and bias.<br />
<br />
I have absolutely no confidence in the integrity or impartiality of the ESC nor, needless to say, of the BBC, of which the former is no more than a lap dog. In spite of this, I believe it is important that the record should be able to show that there have been forceful objections the modus operandi of both.<br />
<br />
Yours sincerely,<br />
R.C.E. Wyndham<br />
<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi All,<br />
Another bueaty forwarded to me by Hans Shreuder. <br />
AND, a name some of us "know" here, Rupert Wyndham.....<br />
He's a neighbour of Richard S Courtney.<br />
Oh, how I'd like to listen in to their conversations whilst cutting the hedges.<br />
<br />
Hans forwarded,<br />
<br />
FYI.<br />
 <br />
pdf at <a href="http://www.tech-know.eu/uploads/Rupert16082010.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.tech-know.eu/uploads/Rupert16082010.pdf</a><br />
 <br />
-----<br />
<br />
16 August 2010. <br />
<br />
Mr. Bruce Vander<br />
Secretary to the Editorial Standards Committee<br />
BBC Trust<br />
180 Great Portland Street<br />
London W1W 5QZ<br />
<br />
Dear Mr. Vander<br />
<br />
"<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">The hard hitting investigative programmes no longer exist. The BBC is an arm of the government.</span></span>" Frederick Forsyth, Sunday Telegraph 15 August 2010<br />
<br />
Notwithstanding the receipt of a disreputable letter dated 6 July from your colleague, Francesca O'Brien, I have since been advised by Michael Fadda that my letter of 14 April 2008, in which I alleged systemic bias within the Corporation's news coverage of global warming/climate change will now be considered by the Committee at its meeting in September. Mind you, this is far from being the only topic in respect of which the BBC's prejudice is brazen. In any event, though, good! After all, by the time of the September meeting only two and a half years will have elapsed. Given the habitually nimble footed performance of a Committee dedicated to “Getting the best out of the BBC for licence fee payers”, it must be recognised, I suppose, that such levels of responsiveness have now to be regarded as normative. Of course, by contrast, it expects any who question it to respond within ten working days, which is probably not unreasonable given that they are not called upon to react against the constipated bureaucratic inertia which typifies everything connected with the BBC. On the other hand, they do have to pay for it, do they not? And how!<br />
<br />
Still, back to business. There can be absolutely no question that the BBC is systemically biased in its reportage of climate change. Not only have I and others provided copious examples of completely one sided reporting, it is a simple fact, attested on almost a daily basis, that the perception of a wide swathe of its audience regard any claim to impartiality that it makes to be laughable and scandalous. As such, the Corporation is daily in breach of at least three of its own Editorial Standards, those relating to the preservation of impartiality, to careful cross checking in furtherance of maintaining accuracy and to the proscription on insinuating personal opinion into news dispatches. The fact that such malfeasance is the subject of frequent press comment as well as of public conviction provides, simply of itself, unassailable evidence of the truth of the allegation. In short, if enough people, who are divergent and unconnected and thus not simply self-selecting, see the BBC as biased, then biased it most surely is.<br />
<br />
On 30 July I received an email from a climatologist of distinction and prodigious achievement. In that respect, of course, he stands in marked contrast to the succession of talking heads, who are routinely deployed by the BBC, and who are almost invariably described without inconvenient differentiation as "<span style="font-weight: bold;">scientists</span>”. Naturally, none of these, nor even my correspondent, can begin to compete with the penetrating scientific insights vouchsafed the Editor of the Today programme, the mellifluously monikered Ceri Thomas, by virtue of his epic BA in <span style="font-weight: bold;">Creative Music Technology</span> conferred (with acclamation, no doubt) by a university ranking No. 51 in the country. <br />
<br />
Still, we mustn’t linger. However, given his personal involvement in massaging “science” reportage for the benefit of the media, it seemed pertinent in passing to touch upon his credentials for this task, not to mention that of editing the BBC’s flagship morning news round-up. Returning to the main point, I consider it appropriate to advise you of the email, because its contents speak to the issues addressed above, as well as to those in the formal complaint embraced in my letter to Stephanie Harris over two years ago. It contained the following link, which the ESC is invited to visit:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2010/07/propaganda-tunes.html" target="_blank">http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2010/07/p...tunes.html</a><br />
<br />
Until two weeks ago, this blog was wholly unknown to me, but it plainly lends weight to the assertions made in the foregoing paragraph. More than that, in fact; it is conclusive. If someone has taken the trouble to create a blog for the express purpose of tracking instances of bias on the BBC, with which many licence fee payers otherwise unknown to each other agree, then ipso facto there is a deep and systemic problem. It is, therefore, appropriate that it should be included as an addendum to my letter. Neither, as Biased BBC makes clear, is the perception of bias exclusively an external phenomenon. Household names within the Corporation itself recognise the validity of the charge. Thus, on 21 October 2006, we have Andrew Marr pronouncing:<br />
<br />
 "<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities and gay people. <br />
It has a liberal bias not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias.</span></span>"…..<br />
<br />
For “cultural liberal bias” read “left wing”. Speaking personally, I don’t mind a left wing tendency provided that (a) it is acknowledged and (b) it does not interfere with legally mandated Editorial Standards, in particular those already itemised above. There is, though, always a problem with “left wing”, is there not? It is its invariable association with a pernicious corollary, namely the self-preening and delusional conceit that adherents are the inheritors of a uniquely sensitive ethical sensibility, which confers upon them the right, nay the duty, to dictate to their fellows. That manifestation of narcissism is one which I and many others reject. For journalists (so-called) of this stamp, Marble Arch is a more suitable location than the precincts of the BBC. <br />
<br />
Then, famously, on 31 January 2007 we have Jeremy Paxman taking up the baton to develop the same theme:<br />
<br />
"<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">People who know a lot more than I do may be right when they claim that [global warming] is the consequence of our own behaviour. <br />
I assume that this is why the BBC's coverage of the issue abandoned the pretence of impartiality long ago…………...</span></span>"<br />
<br />
He is quite right but then, unlike the BBC’s cadre of environmental/scientific journalists in particular but not exclusively, he is a man of integrity and talent. This makes him worth a second quote:<br />
<br />
"<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">But the bigger question is whether the BBC itself has a future. Working for it has always been a bit like <br />
working in Stalin’s Russia, with one five year plan, one resoundingly empty slogan after another. <br />
One BBC, Making It Happen, Creative Futures, they all dissolve into one great vacuous blur. <br />
I can’t even recall what the current one is…………..</span></span>” The James McTaggart Memorial Lecture, 24 August 2007.<br />
<br />
He could, of course, have framed his central question slightly differently. He could with equal justification have asked: “Does the BBC itself merit a future?” The answer would have been, and remains, a monosyllabic and unequivocal “No”.<br />
<br />
Turning next to your own activities, by which is meant those of the ESC, Dr. John Gahan has kindly been keeping me abreast of exchanges he has been having with it. Both of us have independently noted the discrepancy between the time graciously allowed for communications addressed the ESC and its own dilatory responses. We and others have also noted the obvious explanation for this, namely the device of a stratagem specifically designed to discourage questioning/criticism, which I have sought to capture and summarise in my reply to his last email:<br />
<br />
Ten days for complainants. Two years for the BBC, and even that's not guaranteed! <br />
As Booker has written "<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">an Augean stew of low grade intellectual and moral corruption.</span></span>".<br />
<br />
Lastly, in the latter part of June I notified you of a weather prediction for approximately one month ahead. This had been sent to me by WeatherAction and, amongst other things, informed by plausible physics, it forecast severe weather in the UK, including flooding. That prediction turned out to be usefully accurate. The Met Office, relying upon AGW inspired climate models, failed completely to anticipate this change in the weather until a mere two or three days before. Were this simply a “one off”, it would have no significance. It was not. On the contrary, it was part of a pattern in which Met Office predictions have been totally confounded by WeatherAction – the “BBQ summer”, a mild winter in 2009; I could go on. I sent you/the BBC the July WeatherAction forecast precisely to illustrate the point, namely the reliability of prediction unencumbered by bogus science. The fact that the BBC ignores such evidence right under its nose is further proof of its inherent prejudice and bias.<br />
<br />
I have absolutely no confidence in the integrity or impartiality of the ESC nor, needless to say, of the BBC, of which the former is no more than a lap dog. In spite of this, I believe it is important that the record should be able to show that there have been forceful objections the modus operandi of both.<br />
<br />
Yours sincerely,<br />
R.C.E. Wyndham<br />
<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Milankovitch Cycle Pacemaker of the Ice Ages]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:07:13 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[From this <a href="http://www.iceagenow.com/Milankovitch_Cycle-Pacemaker_of_the_Ice_Ages.htm" target="_blank">LINK</a><br />
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EXCERPT:<br />
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E-mail from a winemaker in New Zealand<br />
<br />
Hi Robert,<br />
<br />
Don't know whether you've seen this graphic or not, I can't remember where I first encountered it, it may even have been from your site. It tallies well with sudden cooling.<br />
<br />
<img src="http://www.iceagenow.com/Milankovich%20Cycle.png" border="0" alt="[Image: Milankovich%20Cycle.png]" /><br />
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Source: Graphic based on a slide created by Andrei Illarionov, Adviser to the President of Russia. The slide was part of a PowerPoint presentation given by Illarionov in 2004 (which is also worth viewing)*   <a href="http://www.iccfglobal.org/ppt/Illarionov-01-10-04.ppt" target="_blank">http://www.iccfglobal.org/ppt/Illarionov-01-10-04.ppt</a><br />
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<span style="color: #0000CD;">I urge you to download the link to the slide presentation.The image is from it and many more you need to see.It is a readable presentation for the public.</span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[From this <a href="http://www.iceagenow.com/Milankovitch_Cycle-Pacemaker_of_the_Ice_Ages.htm" target="_blank">LINK</a><br />
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EXCERPT:<br />
<br />
E-mail from a winemaker in New Zealand<br />
<br />
Hi Robert,<br />
<br />
Don't know whether you've seen this graphic or not, I can't remember where I first encountered it, it may even have been from your site. It tallies well with sudden cooling.<br />
<br />
<img src="http://www.iceagenow.com/Milankovich%20Cycle.png" border="0" alt="[Image: Milankovich%20Cycle.png]" /><br />
<br />
Source: Graphic based on a slide created by Andrei Illarionov, Adviser to the President of Russia. The slide was part of a PowerPoint presentation given by Illarionov in 2004 (which is also worth viewing)*   <a href="http://www.iccfglobal.org/ppt/Illarionov-01-10-04.ppt" target="_blank">http://www.iccfglobal.org/ppt/Illarionov-01-10-04.ppt</a><br />
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===========================================================<br />
<span style="color: #0000CD;">I urge you to download the link to the slide presentation.The image is from it and many more you need to see.It is a readable presentation for the public.</span>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Climate Scandals: List Of 94 Climate-Gates]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-874.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:01:28 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Please visit this link <a href="http://notrickszone.com/2010/08/03/climate-scandals-list-of-94-climate-gates/#comment-869" target="_blank">NoTricksZone</a> for the rest of the list.<br />
<br />
I also support this statement,posted by P. Gosselin:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>© Copyright notice<br />
I’ve noticed some websites have cut and pasted entire lists of gates at their sites in the past. Although I’m happy the lists are spreading and becoming more widely known, I kindly ask websites not to do this. Please post the first 10 or 12 gates of the list, and then followed by a link to this site.  To post more, please send me an e-mail and I’ll do my best to accommodate specials requests. Thanks!</blockquote>
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EXCERPT:<br />
<br />
1. <a href="http://www.appinsys.com/globalwarming/Acceleration.htm" target="_blank">Acceleration of sea level rise-gate</a>  <br />
Claims of accelerating sea level rise are misleading.<br />
<br />
2. <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/02/06/ipccs-latest-blunder-africagate-as-told-by-dr-richard-north/" target="_blank">African agriculture claim-gate</a><br />
IPCC wrongly claims that in some African countries yields from rain-fed agriculture could be reduced by up to 50 percent by 2020.<br />
<br />
3. <a href="http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html" target="_blank">AIT-gate</a> and <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/3310137/Al-Gores-nine-Inconvenient-Untruths.html" target="_blank">British High Court</a><br />
35 errors or gross exaggerations are found in Al Gore’s Oscar winning documentary An Inconvenient Truth.<br />
<br />
4. NEW! <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100302123124.htm" target="_blank">Alaskan glaciers-gate</a><br />
Loss of glaciers in Alaska was grossly exaggerated.<br />
<br />
5. <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/25/d-jour-gate-flavor-amazon/" target="_blank">Amazon rainforest-gate</a> and  <a href="http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/07/amazongate-smoking-gun.html" target="_blank">here (NEW!)</a> and <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/7883372/Amazongate-At-last-we-reach-the-source.html" target="_blank">here (NEW!)</a>  <br />
IPCC cites “robust” source: green activist organisation WWF. WWF’s source was merely an anonymous brief on forest fire risks posted in 1999 and taken down four years later.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Please visit this link <a href="http://notrickszone.com/2010/08/03/climate-scandals-list-of-94-climate-gates/#comment-869" target="_blank">NoTricksZone</a> for the rest of the list.<br />
<br />
I also support this statement,posted by P. Gosselin:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>© Copyright notice<br />
I’ve noticed some websites have cut and pasted entire lists of gates at their sites in the past. Although I’m happy the lists are spreading and becoming more widely known, I kindly ask websites not to do this. Please post the first 10 or 12 gates of the list, and then followed by a link to this site.  To post more, please send me an e-mail and I’ll do my best to accommodate specials requests. Thanks!</blockquote>
<br />
EXCERPT:<br />
<br />
1. <a href="http://www.appinsys.com/globalwarming/Acceleration.htm" target="_blank">Acceleration of sea level rise-gate</a>  <br />
Claims of accelerating sea level rise are misleading.<br />
<br />
2. <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/02/06/ipccs-latest-blunder-africagate-as-told-by-dr-richard-north/" target="_blank">African agriculture claim-gate</a><br />
IPCC wrongly claims that in some African countries yields from rain-fed agriculture could be reduced by up to 50 percent by 2020.<br />
<br />
3. <a href="http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html" target="_blank">AIT-gate</a> and <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/3310137/Al-Gores-nine-Inconvenient-Untruths.html" target="_blank">British High Court</a><br />
35 errors or gross exaggerations are found in Al Gore’s Oscar winning documentary An Inconvenient Truth.<br />
<br />
4. NEW! <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100302123124.htm" target="_blank">Alaskan glaciers-gate</a><br />
Loss of glaciers in Alaska was grossly exaggerated.<br />
<br />
5. <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/25/d-jour-gate-flavor-amazon/" target="_blank">Amazon rainforest-gate</a> and  <a href="http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/07/amazongate-smoking-gun.html" target="_blank">here (NEW!)</a> and <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/7883372/Amazongate-At-last-we-reach-the-source.html" target="_blank">here (NEW!)</a>  <br />
IPCC cites “robust” source: green activist organisation WWF. WWF’s source was merely an anonymous brief on forest fire risks posted in 1999 and taken down four years later.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Harold Pierce Jr comment]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-872.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 16:05:43 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[From <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/14/monckton-why-current-trends-are-not-alarming/#more-23418" target="_blank">HERE</a><br />
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<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Harold Pierce Jr says: <br />
August 14, 2010 at 9:12 am <br />
Thr following is quite important so everybody pay attention.<br />
<br />
After analysis, the concentration of CO2 or any gas in a sample of local air is reported for purified dry air (PDA) which does not occur in the earth’s atmosphere and is comprised of nitrogen, oxygen, the inert gases and CO2, often called the fixed gases. The composition (i.e, the relative amounts of the fixed gases) of PDA is fairly uniform through out the atmosphere and independent of site, elevation, temperature, pressure, and humidity except for minor local variations in particular with respect to CO2. This the origin of the phrase “well-mixed atmospheric gases”.<br />
<br />
In real air, there is no uniform distribution of the masses of the constituents of the atmosphere in space and time as shown by a daily weather maps of the earth. High pressure cells have more mass of the atmospheric constituents than do low pressure cells, and these are always moving and their mass and composition is constantly changing. Real air is the term for local air at the intake ports of air separation plants and includes all types of particulate matter, reactive gases such as oxides of sulfur and nitrogen, ozone, ammonia, volatile organic compounds, water vapor, fog and the fixed gases. The composition of real air with respect to mass is always site specific but does vary slightly with changing weather.<br />
<br />
PDA at STP (i.e., 273.15 K and one atmosphere pressure) is called standard dry air (SDA) and has 393 ppmv, 393 ml, 17.5 mmoles, 772 mg or 0.000772 kg of CO2 per cubic meter. As mentioned above the composition of PDA is fairly uniform through out atmosphere and will usually have 393 ppmv of CO2. However, the mass of the constituents in any unit volume of the atmosphere will depend m0stly on pressure, temperature and humidity. Clouds in any unit volume of the atmosphere will also lower the mass of fixed gasses. <br />
<br />
<span style="color: #FF0000;">Climate models apparently use the concentration of CO2 in ppmv. Not only is this incorrect but is the fatal flaw which greatly limits the skill and accuracy of climate model scenarios or projections. The metric that should be used for CO2 and the gases including water vapor is mass per unit volume. The mass of CO2 in the atmosphere is much less than is indicated by the current methods of analysis.</span><br />
<br />
Clouds are micro droplets of water and will contain atmospheric gases, the amount of which will depend on pressure and temperature and on the number of droplets per unit volume. Clouds are always moving and can transport atmospheric gases and in particular CO2 in the liquid phase. Depending on the conditions the clouds encounter, they can release the atmospheric gases and in particular CO2 and water as vapor into the atmosphere or transport the gases to the ground in rain drops. This another reason why there is no uniform distribution of the mass of the atmospheric gases in space and time.<br />
<br />
After visiting many climate website and blogs over the years, this chemist has concluded that the nearly 100% of the climate scientists and lay people are unaware of the above. Based on the above, climate modeling would be very difficult without making many simplifying assumptions and consequently the various scenarios or projections (i.e., computational speculation and conjucture) from climate models can not be used regulating greenhouse emissions.</blockquote>
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<span style="font-style: italic;">Red bolding is my emphasis of a significant point to consider.</span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[From <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/14/monckton-why-current-trends-are-not-alarming/#more-23418" target="_blank">HERE</a><br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Harold Pierce Jr says: <br />
August 14, 2010 at 9:12 am <br />
Thr following is quite important so everybody pay attention.<br />
<br />
After analysis, the concentration of CO2 or any gas in a sample of local air is reported for purified dry air (PDA) which does not occur in the earth’s atmosphere and is comprised of nitrogen, oxygen, the inert gases and CO2, often called the fixed gases. The composition (i.e, the relative amounts of the fixed gases) of PDA is fairly uniform through out the atmosphere and independent of site, elevation, temperature, pressure, and humidity except for minor local variations in particular with respect to CO2. This the origin of the phrase “well-mixed atmospheric gases”.<br />
<br />
In real air, there is no uniform distribution of the masses of the constituents of the atmosphere in space and time as shown by a daily weather maps of the earth. High pressure cells have more mass of the atmospheric constituents than do low pressure cells, and these are always moving and their mass and composition is constantly changing. Real air is the term for local air at the intake ports of air separation plants and includes all types of particulate matter, reactive gases such as oxides of sulfur and nitrogen, ozone, ammonia, volatile organic compounds, water vapor, fog and the fixed gases. The composition of real air with respect to mass is always site specific but does vary slightly with changing weather.<br />
<br />
PDA at STP (i.e., 273.15 K and one atmosphere pressure) is called standard dry air (SDA) and has 393 ppmv, 393 ml, 17.5 mmoles, 772 mg or 0.000772 kg of CO2 per cubic meter. As mentioned above the composition of PDA is fairly uniform through out atmosphere and will usually have 393 ppmv of CO2. However, the mass of the constituents in any unit volume of the atmosphere will depend m0stly on pressure, temperature and humidity. Clouds in any unit volume of the atmosphere will also lower the mass of fixed gasses. <br />
<br />
<span style="color: #FF0000;">Climate models apparently use the concentration of CO2 in ppmv. Not only is this incorrect but is the fatal flaw which greatly limits the skill and accuracy of climate model scenarios or projections. The metric that should be used for CO2 and the gases including water vapor is mass per unit volume. The mass of CO2 in the atmosphere is much less than is indicated by the current methods of analysis.</span><br />
<br />
Clouds are micro droplets of water and will contain atmospheric gases, the amount of which will depend on pressure and temperature and on the number of droplets per unit volume. Clouds are always moving and can transport atmospheric gases and in particular CO2 in the liquid phase. Depending on the conditions the clouds encounter, they can release the atmospheric gases and in particular CO2 and water as vapor into the atmosphere or transport the gases to the ground in rain drops. This another reason why there is no uniform distribution of the mass of the atmospheric gases in space and time.<br />
<br />
After visiting many climate website and blogs over the years, this chemist has concluded that the nearly 100% of the climate scientists and lay people are unaware of the above. Based on the above, climate modeling would be very difficult without making many simplifying assumptions and consequently the various scenarios or projections (i.e., computational speculation and conjucture) from climate models can not be used regulating greenhouse emissions.</blockquote>
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<span style="font-style: italic;">Red bolding is my emphasis of a significant point to consider.</span>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[All satellite data removed..]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-870.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 00:42:55 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi All,<br />
Thank you to Hans Shreuder who sent me this.<br />
(Hans has an email list that is well worth being added to.)<br />
<br />
Hans writes,<br />
<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size: large;">Whatever next?!</span><br />
 <br />
This breaking news has opened up a huge can of worms and I urge everyone to also read the excellent related story in the links below that <br />
substantiates the fact that the satellite network responsible for collecting climate data is showing serious signs of systemic degradation with the following failures also discovered:</span></span><br />
 <br />
<span style="color: #1E90FF;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">The NPOESS <a href="http://notrickszone.com/2010/08/03/climate-scandals-list-of-94-climate-gates/" target="_blank">(National Polar-orbiting Operational Environmental Satellite)</a> will not have any sensors that measure the sun’s energy output on the 2nd and 4th satellites. <br />
The GOES-R <a href="http://www.goes-r.gov/" target="_blank">(Geostationary Operational Environmental Satellite-R Series)</a> has had 14 sensors cancelled. <br />
No data for cloud base height, ozone layer, ocean color, ocean turbidity and cloud imagery, snow cover, etc. Effectively neutered. <br />
Landsat 7 (currently in orbit) is broken leaving data gaps. Scientists do not get all the information they should. <br />
No sensor for movement of greenhouse gases and pollutants. No sensor to monitor temperature changes on Earth over time.<br />
But per the article NOAA and DOD failed to try to get the funding to keep the eliminated sensors. <br />
The sensor to measure how Earth’s temperature reacts to changes in Solar energy was cancelled by the Obama Administration at the end of June 2011.<br />
<a href="http://co2insanity.com/2010/08/08/satellite-gate/" target="_blank">http://co2insanity.com/2010/08/08/satellite-gate/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.climatechangefraud.com/climate-reports/7491-official-satellite-failure-means-decade-of-global-warming-data-doubtful" target="_blank">http://www.climatechangefraud.com/climat...a-doubtful</a><br />
----</span></span>With thanks to John O'Sullivan<br />
 <br />
<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">sent to you by<br />
Hans Schreuder<br />
<a href="http://www.ilovemycarbondioxide.com" target="_blank">http://www.ilovemycarbondioxide.com</a></span></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi All,<br />
Thank you to Hans Shreuder who sent me this.<br />
(Hans has an email list that is well worth being added to.)<br />
<br />
Hans writes,<br />
<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size: large;">Whatever next?!</span><br />
 <br />
This breaking news has opened up a huge can of worms and I urge everyone to also read the excellent related story in the links below that <br />
substantiates the fact that the satellite network responsible for collecting climate data is showing serious signs of systemic degradation with the following failures also discovered:</span></span><br />
 <br />
<span style="color: #1E90FF;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">The NPOESS <a href="http://notrickszone.com/2010/08/03/climate-scandals-list-of-94-climate-gates/" target="_blank">(National Polar-orbiting Operational Environmental Satellite)</a> will not have any sensors that measure the sun’s energy output on the 2nd and 4th satellites. <br />
The GOES-R <a href="http://www.goes-r.gov/" target="_blank">(Geostationary Operational Environmental Satellite-R Series)</a> has had 14 sensors cancelled. <br />
No data for cloud base height, ozone layer, ocean color, ocean turbidity and cloud imagery, snow cover, etc. Effectively neutered. <br />
Landsat 7 (currently in orbit) is broken leaving data gaps. Scientists do not get all the information they should. <br />
No sensor for movement of greenhouse gases and pollutants. No sensor to monitor temperature changes on Earth over time.<br />
But per the article NOAA and DOD failed to try to get the funding to keep the eliminated sensors. <br />
The sensor to measure how Earth’s temperature reacts to changes in Solar energy was cancelled by the Obama Administration at the end of June 2011.<br />
<a href="http://co2insanity.com/2010/08/08/satellite-gate/" target="_blank">http://co2insanity.com/2010/08/08/satellite-gate/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.climatechangefraud.com/climate-reports/7491-official-satellite-failure-means-decade-of-global-warming-data-doubtful" target="_blank">http://www.climatechangefraud.com/climat...a-doubtful</a><br />
----</span></span>With thanks to John O'Sullivan<br />
 <br />
<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">sent to you by<br />
Hans Schreuder<br />
<a href="http://www.ilovemycarbondioxide.com" target="_blank">http://www.ilovemycarbondioxide.com</a></span></span>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-869.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 21:57:39 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[This was a comment in reply to this question:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Anonymous said...<br />
<br />
    how did HMS investigator get this far north at the end of the Little Ice Age?"</blockquote>
<br />
The reply:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>You are asking a difficult question, which might make some people a bit uncomfortable. If you're not careful, someone might mistake you for a climate denier, which of course is the same as a holocaust denier. Holocaust denier!!!</blockquote>
 <br />
<br />
He he...<br />
<br />
<a href="http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2010/08/ship-find-shows-arctic-sea-ice.html#comments" target="_blank">LINK</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This was a comment in reply to this question:<br />
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<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Anonymous said...<br />
<br />
    how did HMS investigator get this far north at the end of the Little Ice Age?"</blockquote>
<br />
The reply:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>You are asking a difficult question, which might make some people a bit uncomfortable. If you're not careful, someone might mistake you for a climate denier, which of course is the same as a holocaust denier. Holocaust denier!!!</blockquote>
 <br />
<br />
He he...<br />
<br />
<a href="http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2010/08/ship-find-shows-arctic-sea-ice.html#comments" target="_blank">LINK</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[What do you think?]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-867.html</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 20:18:21 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I found this in a political forum.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Five surgeons are discussing who makes the best patients to operate on.<br />
<br />
The first surgeon says, I like to see accountants on my operating table because when you open them up, everything inside is numbered.<br />
<br />
The second responds, Yeah, but you should try electricians! Everything inside them is color coded.<br />
<br />
The third surgeon says, No, I really think librarians are the best; Everything inside is in alphabetical order.<br />
<br />
The fourth surgeon chimes in; You know, I like construction workers. Those guys always understand when you have a few parts left over at the end, and when the job takes longer than you said it would.<br />
<br />
But the fifth surgeon shut them all up when he observed; You're all wrong. Liberals are the easiest to operate on. There's no guts, no heart, no balls, no brains and no spine, and the head and the ass are interchangeable.</blockquote>
<br />
<img src="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Big Grin" title="Big Grin" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I found this in a political forum.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Five surgeons are discussing who makes the best patients to operate on.<br />
<br />
The first surgeon says, I like to see accountants on my operating table because when you open them up, everything inside is numbered.<br />
<br />
The second responds, Yeah, but you should try electricians! Everything inside them is color coded.<br />
<br />
The third surgeon says, No, I really think librarians are the best; Everything inside is in alphabetical order.<br />
<br />
The fourth surgeon chimes in; You know, I like construction workers. Those guys always understand when you have a few parts left over at the end, and when the job takes longer than you said it would.<br />
<br />
But the fifth surgeon shut them all up when he observed; You're all wrong. Liberals are the easiest to operate on. There's no guts, no heart, no balls, no brains and no spine, and the head and the ass are interchangeable.</blockquote>
<br />
<img src="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Big Grin" title="Big Grin" />]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[The Monthly Monckton Cfact.]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-866.html</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:23:47 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi All,<br />
I have subscibed to the below.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://cfact.us1.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=87b74a936c723115dfa298cf3&amp;id=39da085a2d" target="_blank">http://cfact.us1.list-manage.com/subscri...39da085a2d</a> <br />
<br />
I sent an email as follows in regards to the first issue I recieved, and the possibility of making it available here as well.<br />
<br />
"<span style="color: #0000CD;"> <span style="font-weight: bold;">Dear cfact,<br />
Firstly, excellant, I look forward to future monthly issues.<br />
I have attached a couple of word documents of the first copy of The Monthly Monckton that I have quickly made by simple copy and paste.<br />
I ask, can I post these word documents on a thread yet to be created on this forum,<br />
<a href="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/index.php" target="_blank">http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/index.php</a> <br />
 <br />
yours,<br />
Derek Alker,<br />
aka Derek.</span></span><br />
<br />
I received the following reply.<br />
<br />
" <span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: #1E90FF;">Derek,<br />
<br />
Thank you for your interest in The Monthly Monckton. We are excited that you want to share the issue!<br />
<br />
However, we would request that you do not post these word documents to the forum. <br />
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I also later received an email from Lord Monckton,<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Fox on the Lilo (no, not the TV station)]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 07:34:28 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[So what has this to do with global warming? Do read on.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1301765/The-fox-cub-caught-lounging-swimming-pool-lilo.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">The fox cub caught lounging around on swimming pool lilo</span></span></a><br />
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By <span style="font-weight: bold;">Beth Hale</span><br />
Last updated at 10:03 AM on 11th August 2010<br />
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The covered paddling pool must have seemed an irresistible playground for an adventurous fox cub.<br />
But it found itself in deep trouble after the cover gave way, plunging it into the cold water.<br />
Homeowner John Barnes was awoken at 5am by splashing and found the shivering animal had managed to clamber aboard an airbed in the middle of the pool.<br />
<br />
Mr Barnes, 52, took this picture before using a rake to push the lilo towards the edge, but the frightened fox snapped at it and toppled back into the water.<br />
With a last despairing effort, however, it regained the airbed and managed to scramble over the edge of the plastic pool before disappearing into the undergrowth in Selsdon, near Croydon.<br />
Foxes are reluctant swimmers and the temperature of the water would have rapidly affected the animal. Mr Barnes’s wife Ann said: <span style="font-weight: bold;">‘We’ve had the pool for two months and every time we’ve been in it the water has been just freezing.’</span><br />
She added that by the time the fox was back on dry land, it was so tired it could barely walk. ‘It’s so lucky John was there.’<br />
The kind-hearted couple have now installed steps into their pool in case any other animals decide to go for a late-night swim.<br />
<br />
Trevor Williams, director of the Fox Project charity, said: ‘We have heard of foxes getting into water in gardens and before this case, all of them have ended with the fox losing its life.’<br />
Appearances of the urban fox appear to be on the rise.<br />
In June nine-month-old twins Lola and Isabella Koupparis, were mauled by an urban fox when they were sleeping in their cots at their home in Hackney, East London.</blockquote>
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My emphasis. This is August in the Northern Hemisphere summer and the pool has been in use for two months and the water is freezing!<br />
<br />
I had been reading Dr Roy Spencer's blog and trying to understand his explanation of how "back radiation" can warm things up.<br />
<br />
Well, here we have several cubic meters of water insulated from the ground by the porta-pool plastic body and covered at night by a clear plastic sheet. Water radiates as a grey body, all IR bands from 3 to 100 microns. So called "back radiation" from a clear sky cannot reduce this energy loss at night such that all energy absorbed from the sun during the day is lost.<br />
<br />
If this was not the case the pool would not be "freezing" each day. I do not believe it was anywhere near ZERO CENTIGRADE, just cool enough to be uncomfortable for humans. The point is the pool was not warming up during the hottest part of the year and the record breaking "hottest year ever".<br />
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I didn't post the picture cos it seemed to be from the Guardian. <img src="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Confused" title="Confused" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[So what has this to do with global warming? Do read on.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1301765/The-fox-cub-caught-lounging-swimming-pool-lilo.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">The fox cub caught lounging around on swimming pool lilo</span></span></a><br />
<br />
By <span style="font-weight: bold;">Beth Hale</span><br />
Last updated at 10:03 AM on 11th August 2010<br />
<br />
The covered paddling pool must have seemed an irresistible playground for an adventurous fox cub.<br />
But it found itself in deep trouble after the cover gave way, plunging it into the cold water.<br />
Homeowner John Barnes was awoken at 5am by splashing and found the shivering animal had managed to clamber aboard an airbed in the middle of the pool.<br />
<br />
Mr Barnes, 52, took this picture before using a rake to push the lilo towards the edge, but the frightened fox snapped at it and toppled back into the water.<br />
With a last despairing effort, however, it regained the airbed and managed to scramble over the edge of the plastic pool before disappearing into the undergrowth in Selsdon, near Croydon.<br />
Foxes are reluctant swimmers and the temperature of the water would have rapidly affected the animal. Mr Barnes’s wife Ann said: <span style="font-weight: bold;">‘We’ve had the pool for two months and every time we’ve been in it the water has been just freezing.’</span><br />
She added that by the time the fox was back on dry land, it was so tired it could barely walk. ‘It’s so lucky John was there.’<br />
The kind-hearted couple have now installed steps into their pool in case any other animals decide to go for a late-night swim.<br />
<br />
Trevor Williams, director of the Fox Project charity, said: ‘We have heard of foxes getting into water in gardens and before this case, all of them have ended with the fox losing its life.’<br />
Appearances of the urban fox appear to be on the rise.<br />
In June nine-month-old twins Lola and Isabella Koupparis, were mauled by an urban fox when they were sleeping in their cots at their home in Hackney, East London.</blockquote>
<br />
My emphasis. This is August in the Northern Hemisphere summer and the pool has been in use for two months and the water is freezing!<br />
<br />
I had been reading Dr Roy Spencer's blog and trying to understand his explanation of how "back radiation" can warm things up.<br />
<br />
Well, here we have several cubic meters of water insulated from the ground by the porta-pool plastic body and covered at night by a clear plastic sheet. Water radiates as a grey body, all IR bands from 3 to 100 microns. So called "back radiation" from a clear sky cannot reduce this energy loss at night such that all energy absorbed from the sun during the day is lost.<br />
<br />
If this was not the case the pool would not be "freezing" each day. I do not believe it was anywhere near ZERO CENTIGRADE, just cool enough to be uncomfortable for humans. The point is the pool was not warming up during the hottest part of the year and the record breaking "hottest year ever".<br />
<br />
I didn't post the picture cos it seemed to be from the Guardian. <img src="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Confused" title="Confused" />]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Drilling Ahead: Cashing in on the enviro agenda, Greenbacks for green drilling?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:08:12 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[This article may intrigue some of you:<br />
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<a href="http://drillingcontractor.org/drilling-ahead-cashing-in-on-the-enviro-agenda-greenbacks-for-green-drilling-2510" target="_blank">http://drillingcontractor.org/drilling-a...lling-2510</a><br />
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It is a bit long to reproduce here, so here are a couple of quotes:<br />
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<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Even as environmental agendas delay well permitting and cause other headaches, new opportunities may loom for “green” drilling. Two areas in particular present themselves – CO2 geologic storage and geothermal drilling.<br />
<br />
As Pritchard Capital somewhat breathlessly phrased it in a recent e-missive, “Geothermal is hot and getting hotter.” As previously reported herein, &#36;90 million of US funding was designated for geothermal technologies. The funding is for work on conventional geothermal resources and for “enhanced” geothermal.<br />
<br />
Longtime DC readers may recall “enhanced” geothermal from 1991, when Los Alamos invited IADC to organize a drillers’ delegation to tour the New Mexico facility and learn about “hot dry rocks” – now reborn with the rather more marketable moniker “enhanced” geothermal. In short, an injector and a producer are drilled into non-permeable, heat-bearing strata. The rock is fractured, tepid water pumped in and hot water produced to generate electricity.<br />
<br />
A &#36;500 million-plus annual bonanza in drilling and well services predicted in ’91 has yet to emerge. Even today, backed by fed funds, progress is shaky. One recent, well-publicized DOE-funded project in California’s Geysers by AltaRock Energy was suspended in early September after failures re-entering and deepening the first well. Each of AltaRock’s three redrill attempts ended in failure, the well collapsing and trapping the BHA. The company suggested several culprits – long-term injection, difficult geology, and the well rework itself. AltaRock would not comment to DC beyond the information on its website.</blockquote>
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>The other prospective green gusher for well services is CO2 geologic storage. Suggestions for CO2 disposal modes abound. Our industry has been injecting the stuff downhole in tertiary oil-recovery programs for decades. Kinder Morgan CO2  alone delivers some 1.3 billion cu ft through 1,300 miles of pipelines. Much of this is produced from domes in the western US, ironic in an age of CO2 terror.</blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This article may intrigue some of you:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://drillingcontractor.org/drilling-ahead-cashing-in-on-the-enviro-agenda-greenbacks-for-green-drilling-2510" target="_blank">http://drillingcontractor.org/drilling-a...lling-2510</a><br />
<br />
It is a bit long to reproduce here, so here are a couple of quotes:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Even as environmental agendas delay well permitting and cause other headaches, new opportunities may loom for “green” drilling. Two areas in particular present themselves – CO2 geologic storage and geothermal drilling.<br />
<br />
As Pritchard Capital somewhat breathlessly phrased it in a recent e-missive, “Geothermal is hot and getting hotter.” As previously reported herein, &#36;90 million of US funding was designated for geothermal technologies. The funding is for work on conventional geothermal resources and for “enhanced” geothermal.<br />
<br />
Longtime DC readers may recall “enhanced” geothermal from 1991, when Los Alamos invited IADC to organize a drillers’ delegation to tour the New Mexico facility and learn about “hot dry rocks” – now reborn with the rather more marketable moniker “enhanced” geothermal. In short, an injector and a producer are drilled into non-permeable, heat-bearing strata. The rock is fractured, tepid water pumped in and hot water produced to generate electricity.<br />
<br />
A &#36;500 million-plus annual bonanza in drilling and well services predicted in ’91 has yet to emerge. Even today, backed by fed funds, progress is shaky. One recent, well-publicized DOE-funded project in California’s Geysers by AltaRock Energy was suspended in early September after failures re-entering and deepening the first well. Each of AltaRock’s three redrill attempts ended in failure, the well collapsing and trapping the BHA. The company suggested several culprits – long-term injection, difficult geology, and the well rework itself. AltaRock would not comment to DC beyond the information on its website.</blockquote>
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>The other prospective green gusher for well services is CO2 geologic storage. Suggestions for CO2 disposal modes abound. Our industry has been injecting the stuff downhole in tertiary oil-recovery programs for decades. Kinder Morgan CO2  alone delivers some 1.3 billion cu ft through 1,300 miles of pipelines. Much of this is produced from domes in the western US, ironic in an age of CO2 terror.</blockquote>
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			<title><![CDATA[RobZ Comment]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:06:03 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[From <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/06/a-reply-to-vonk-radiative-physics-simplified-ii/#more-23064" target="_blank">HERE</a><br />
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<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Rob Z says: <br />
August 7, 2010 at 12:14 pm <br />
This is a valuable “Assume the horse is a perfect sphere” experiment. The blogger says: My statement is – CO2 does create a warming effect in the lower atmosphere.” is incorrect. The blogger merely proves that CO2 absorbs 15um wavelength radiation and relaxes. Whoop de doo. Congratulations!! The “physicist” fails in his “perfect sphere” experiment by failing to ask the question, “is there any way that CO2 would cause cooling to be faster or cause net cooling in general?” The answer is an emphatic YES! The second question is, “Will the cooling forces (excluding convection) overwhelm the radiative heating mechanism. The answer again is YES. How do we know this?<br />
<br />
Convective cooling using air is substantially more effective than conductive cooling using air. It’s why we blow air on hot soup to cool it faster…more air…more cooling (CO2 at higher concentrations than 400ppm).<br />
<br />
Conductive cooling using air is substantially better than radiative cooling with no air. Radiative transfers of energy are slow, it’s why things stay hot or cold in a vacuum. FOR A LONG TIME!!!<br />
<br />
If you were to add a small amount of CO2 and only CO2 to the interstitial space (area between the surface contacting the coffee and the outside surface) of a thermos for your hot coffee… guess what …it get’s colder faster. Go do the experiment in a glass thermos or any thermos. Since your coffee is radiating at LWIR, the CO2 gas doesn’t keep the coffee warmer. That is basic physics and thermodynamics. Also, since there is more Oxygen than CO2 in the atmosphere…and replacing Oxygen with a CO2, a gas with a lower heat capacity at constant pressure, the atmosphere will be more conductive and cool faster.<br />
<br />
Jeff hedges his bets…and says….”I’ve not said anything about the magnitude or danger or even measurability of the effect. I only assert that the effect is real, is provable, it’s basic physics and it does exist.”… This is disingenuous. The conductive effects of added CO2 to the atmosphere will outweigh the absorptive effects. The net effect is cooling. When the physical effect is not measurable in the real world, is it necessary to account for it? If a measured effect contains both mechanisms…and one outweighs the other, do you use the net effect in the calculation? If yes, do you make conclusions based on the net effect or the only one of the components? If CO2 can absorb heat and do conductive/convective cooling and the net result is cooling, do you claim that CO2 causes heating if the net effect is cooling?? The “green house effect” is bogus. Don’t believe me… convince a nursery to pump in CO2 (800ppm final concentration ought to be enough) to keep it warm at night in the green house instead of turning on the heat when the temperature approaches freezing outside. Should be able to bump the temp up by 5C. For good measure…have Jeff bring his laser.</blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[From <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/08/06/a-reply-to-vonk-radiative-physics-simplified-ii/#more-23064" target="_blank">HERE</a><br />
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<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Rob Z says: <br />
August 7, 2010 at 12:14 pm <br />
This is a valuable “Assume the horse is a perfect sphere” experiment. The blogger says: My statement is – CO2 does create a warming effect in the lower atmosphere.” is incorrect. The blogger merely proves that CO2 absorbs 15um wavelength radiation and relaxes. Whoop de doo. Congratulations!! The “physicist” fails in his “perfect sphere” experiment by failing to ask the question, “is there any way that CO2 would cause cooling to be faster or cause net cooling in general?” The answer is an emphatic YES! The second question is, “Will the cooling forces (excluding convection) overwhelm the radiative heating mechanism. The answer again is YES. How do we know this?<br />
<br />
Convective cooling using air is substantially more effective than conductive cooling using air. It’s why we blow air on hot soup to cool it faster…more air…more cooling (CO2 at higher concentrations than 400ppm).<br />
<br />
Conductive cooling using air is substantially better than radiative cooling with no air. Radiative transfers of energy are slow, it’s why things stay hot or cold in a vacuum. FOR A LONG TIME!!!<br />
<br />
If you were to add a small amount of CO2 and only CO2 to the interstitial space (area between the surface contacting the coffee and the outside surface) of a thermos for your hot coffee… guess what …it get’s colder faster. Go do the experiment in a glass thermos or any thermos. Since your coffee is radiating at LWIR, the CO2 gas doesn’t keep the coffee warmer. That is basic physics and thermodynamics. Also, since there is more Oxygen than CO2 in the atmosphere…and replacing Oxygen with a CO2, a gas with a lower heat capacity at constant pressure, the atmosphere will be more conductive and cool faster.<br />
<br />
Jeff hedges his bets…and says….”I’ve not said anything about the magnitude or danger or even measurability of the effect. I only assert that the effect is real, is provable, it’s basic physics and it does exist.”… This is disingenuous. The conductive effects of added CO2 to the atmosphere will outweigh the absorptive effects. The net effect is cooling. When the physical effect is not measurable in the real world, is it necessary to account for it? If a measured effect contains both mechanisms…and one outweighs the other, do you use the net effect in the calculation? If yes, do you make conclusions based on the net effect or the only one of the components? If CO2 can absorb heat and do conductive/convective cooling and the net result is cooling, do you claim that CO2 causes heating if the net effect is cooling?? The “green house effect” is bogus. Don’t believe me… convince a nursery to pump in CO2 (800ppm final concentration ought to be enough) to keep it warm at night in the green house instead of turning on the heat when the temperature approaches freezing outside. Should be able to bump the temp up by 5C. For good measure…have Jeff bring his laser.</blockquote>
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