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			<title><![CDATA[CO2 and Temperature]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 21:17:22 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello members and guests,<br />
<br />
I am going to post a few links that shows charts,for the purpose of putting climate alarmists on the spot.I have seen a beautiful meltdown over it recently on the part of a climate alarmist at a blog.I had a grand time making a certain CO2 delusional man fall apart and accuse me of making a strawman comment.<br />
<br />
We have been told for years by many AGW believers/Alarmists/Warmist fanatics,that for thousands of years CO2 was stable and around the 280 ppmv level.<br />
<br />
By viewing this first chart you can see that would easily prove that CO2 changes (lack of it in this case) does not drive climate changes.<span style="color: #0000CD;">Something else is doing it and that is obvious by viewing the chart.</span><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-188-post-3123.html#pid3123" target="_blank">http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/fo...ml#pid3123</a><br />
<br />
As you can see that there have been NINE distinct warming or cooling trends that stands out in the data.But the CO2 stayed right around the 280 ppmv level in all that time.<br />
<br />
==============================================<br />
<br />
This chart below also based on Greenland Ice cores,shows that the current warming trend since the 1850's is nothing out of the ordinary.It is still presently cooler than most of the last 10,000 years.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-188-post-3130.html#pid3130" target="_blank">http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/fo...ml#pid3130</a><br />
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==============================================<br />
<br />
The next chart shows historical CO2 levels against the current CO2 levels<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-188-post-4035.html#pid4035" target="_blank">http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/fo...ml#pid4035</a><br />
<br />
See that CO2 levels of today is right at the bottom of the charts and only one other time period that low previously was nearly 300 million years ago.Surely by now you are understanding just how irrelevant CO2 is as a temperature driver.<br />
<br />
We are presently only a little over 100 ppmv above the no growth level for sustained plant growth.We live in an IMPOVERISHED CO2 world! About 95% of the time in last 600 million years it was much higher than now and yet at least three major ice age epochs manage to show up despite much higher levels of CO2 in the atmosphere than now.<br />
<br />
=============================================<br />
<br />
Last chart below is to show the temperature AND CO2 levels on the same chart.It is obvious that CO2 is NOT driving the climate system.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-188-post-4671.html#pid4671" target="_blank">http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/fo...ml#pid4671</a><br />
<br />
=============================================<br />
<br />
This chart shows that at the bottom of the world in Antarctica,there is also no connection between CO2 and temperature changes.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-188-post-4994.html#pid4994" target="_blank">http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/fo...ml#pid4994</a><br />
<br />
The continued selling of CO2 as a powerful climate driver in spite of the abundant contrary evidence and the utter failure of the few predictions based on the CO2 based warm forcing beliefs.Should have already made it clear that the AHW hypothesis is a failure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello members and guests,<br />
<br />
I am going to post a few links that shows charts,for the purpose of putting climate alarmists on the spot.I have seen a beautiful meltdown over it recently on the part of a climate alarmist at a blog.I had a grand time making a certain CO2 delusional man fall apart and accuse me of making a strawman comment.<br />
<br />
We have been told for years by many AGW believers/Alarmists/Warmist fanatics,that for thousands of years CO2 was stable and around the 280 ppmv level.<br />
<br />
By viewing this first chart you can see that would easily prove that CO2 changes (lack of it in this case) does not drive climate changes.<span style="color: #0000CD;">Something else is doing it and that is obvious by viewing the chart.</span><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-188-post-3123.html#pid3123" target="_blank">http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/fo...ml#pid3123</a><br />
<br />
As you can see that there have been NINE distinct warming or cooling trends that stands out in the data.But the CO2 stayed right around the 280 ppmv level in all that time.<br />
<br />
==============================================<br />
<br />
This chart below also based on Greenland Ice cores,shows that the current warming trend since the 1850's is nothing out of the ordinary.It is still presently cooler than most of the last 10,000 years.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-188-post-3130.html#pid3130" target="_blank">http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/fo...ml#pid3130</a><br />
<br />
==============================================<br />
<br />
The next chart shows historical CO2 levels against the current CO2 levels<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-188-post-4035.html#pid4035" target="_blank">http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/fo...ml#pid4035</a><br />
<br />
See that CO2 levels of today is right at the bottom of the charts and only one other time period that low previously was nearly 300 million years ago.Surely by now you are understanding just how irrelevant CO2 is as a temperature driver.<br />
<br />
We are presently only a little over 100 ppmv above the no growth level for sustained plant growth.We live in an IMPOVERISHED CO2 world! About 95% of the time in last 600 million years it was much higher than now and yet at least three major ice age epochs manage to show up despite much higher levels of CO2 in the atmosphere than now.<br />
<br />
=============================================<br />
<br />
Last chart below is to show the temperature AND CO2 levels on the same chart.It is obvious that CO2 is NOT driving the climate system.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-188-post-4671.html#pid4671" target="_blank">http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/fo...ml#pid4671</a><br />
<br />
=============================================<br />
<br />
This chart shows that at the bottom of the world in Antarctica,there is also no connection between CO2 and temperature changes.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-188-post-4994.html#pid4994" target="_blank">http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/fo...ml#pid4994</a><br />
<br />
The continued selling of CO2 as a powerful climate driver in spite of the abundant contrary evidence and the utter failure of the few predictions based on the CO2 based warm forcing beliefs.Should have already made it clear that the AHW hypothesis is a failure.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[We are already sliding into the next cold ice age.]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-543.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 00:07:39 -0600</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[What!<br />
<br />
Impossible,because we live in a warming world,where there is a recovery ongoing from the Little Ice Age.Where the temperature has increased by around 1 degree F.<br />
<br />
I know that,<br />
<br />
but you fail to see the bigger picture,since it is not the last 150 years we should be looking at.But the ENTIRE interglacial period where we can get a true sense of what the over all climate temperature trend is coming to,and to see if there is a dominant trend visible over the time period of 10,000 years or so.<br />
<br />
It seems that only one branch of climate science looks at the whole picture and they are the GEOLOGISTS.It is interesting that they were the original climate scientists until the 1970's when people with Physics degrees began to elbow their way in and now we see the damage being done.They are also the only ones who seem to notice this ominous long term trend,while so many other climatologists by other branches of science are trying to sweat out details over an overrated trace gas or two.<br />
<br />
For the last few years I keep wondering why so few people (and that includes scientists) realize that our climate has been cooling for <span style="font-weight: bold;">THOUSANDS</span> of years now.A cooling trend that is beyond personal experience since we do not live long enough to see the dominant trend.But Geologists have long noticed it through research.<br />
<br />
I have known for over 15 years about this fact that we are living in a climate that has a dominant cooling trend in it,and that it began thousands of years ago.It was not that hard to find that since Geologists have long known this and reported it.Yet in this "information" age,it seems that the public at large are unaware of it,and with the criminal hysteria of an invented AGW hypothesis swirling around the world.And therefore are being kept in the dark of this proven fact,that we are in a long term cooling trend.<br />
<br />
The long term cooling goes unnoticed in favor of a warming that can not last for long,due to the built in climatic factors of a known 100,000 year cycle,with 90,000 years of deep cold and ice to 10,000 of warm interglacial.It has now been 10,000 years and with an undeniable dominant cooling trend of thousands of years observable.<span style="color: #FF0000;">It is clear that the 100,000 year cycle is still in place and operating on schedule.</span><br />
<br />
In the 10,000+ years of this interglacial epoch,there have been alternating periods of very warm and cold climate trends,that usually last a few centuries for each trend.The warmest warm period was the <span style="font-weight: bold;">FIRST</span> one nearly 10,000 years ago and also lasted the longest of all the warm periods thus far in the present Interglacial period.<br />
<br />
That alone shows that we are in a <span style="text-decoration: underline;">long term cooling trend</span>,this present warm period will not change that trend,even if it last 500 years because the forces that has made the cooling trend dominant for thousands of years are still in place.<br />
<br />
This chart here beautifully shows the long term cooling trend.I got this from <a href="http://joannenova.com.au/2010/02/the-big-picture-65-million-years-of-temperature-swings/#more-6832" target="_blank">JoNova</a> blog:<br />
<br />
<img src="http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/graphs/lappi/Gisp-ice-10000-r..png" border="0" alt="[Image: Gisp-ice-10000-r..png]" /><br />
<br />
That was for GREENLAND.The cooling trend is now over 6,500 years long.<br />
<br />
This chart for ANTARCTICA shows a cooling trend of about 5,500 years:<br />
<br />
<img src="http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/graphs/lappi/vostok-last-12000-years-web.gif" border="0" alt="[Image: vostok-last-12000-years-web.gif]" /><br />
<br />
It is funny when people exhibit deep fear of a trace gas (CO2) that supposedly causes a lot of warming from a tiny increase of it the atmosphere,where it is still a trace gas at about 385 parts per MILLION by volume (ppmv),after rising for at least 120 years.That they fail to realize that CO2 has never been shown to CAUSE a cooling trend that is now over 5,000 years running by trend.<br />
<br />
People,I think it is the near future COOLING trend that we would be worried about and prepare for.<br />
<br />
We should be very worried.We should be dropping this absurd warming fear and prepare for the inevitable cool down,that I believe is very near.The Little Ice Age may have been an aborted/failed plunge into the 90,000 year COLD part of the cycle.<br />
<br />
We may not be lucky next time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[What!<br />
<br />
Impossible,because we live in a warming world,where there is a recovery ongoing from the Little Ice Age.Where the temperature has increased by around 1 degree F.<br />
<br />
I know that,<br />
<br />
but you fail to see the bigger picture,since it is not the last 150 years we should be looking at.But the ENTIRE interglacial period where we can get a true sense of what the over all climate temperature trend is coming to,and to see if there is a dominant trend visible over the time period of 10,000 years or so.<br />
<br />
It seems that only one branch of climate science looks at the whole picture and they are the GEOLOGISTS.It is interesting that they were the original climate scientists until the 1970's when people with Physics degrees began to elbow their way in and now we see the damage being done.They are also the only ones who seem to notice this ominous long term trend,while so many other climatologists by other branches of science are trying to sweat out details over an overrated trace gas or two.<br />
<br />
For the last few years I keep wondering why so few people (and that includes scientists) realize that our climate has been cooling for <span style="font-weight: bold;">THOUSANDS</span> of years now.A cooling trend that is beyond personal experience since we do not live long enough to see the dominant trend.But Geologists have long noticed it through research.<br />
<br />
I have known for over 15 years about this fact that we are living in a climate that has a dominant cooling trend in it,and that it began thousands of years ago.It was not that hard to find that since Geologists have long known this and reported it.Yet in this "information" age,it seems that the public at large are unaware of it,and with the criminal hysteria of an invented AGW hypothesis swirling around the world.And therefore are being kept in the dark of this proven fact,that we are in a long term cooling trend.<br />
<br />
The long term cooling goes unnoticed in favor of a warming that can not last for long,due to the built in climatic factors of a known 100,000 year cycle,with 90,000 years of deep cold and ice to 10,000 of warm interglacial.It has now been 10,000 years and with an undeniable dominant cooling trend of thousands of years observable.<span style="color: #FF0000;">It is clear that the 100,000 year cycle is still in place and operating on schedule.</span><br />
<br />
In the 10,000+ years of this interglacial epoch,there have been alternating periods of very warm and cold climate trends,that usually last a few centuries for each trend.The warmest warm period was the <span style="font-weight: bold;">FIRST</span> one nearly 10,000 years ago and also lasted the longest of all the warm periods thus far in the present Interglacial period.<br />
<br />
That alone shows that we are in a <span style="text-decoration: underline;">long term cooling trend</span>,this present warm period will not change that trend,even if it last 500 years because the forces that has made the cooling trend dominant for thousands of years are still in place.<br />
<br />
This chart here beautifully shows the long term cooling trend.I got this from <a href="http://joannenova.com.au/2010/02/the-big-picture-65-million-years-of-temperature-swings/#more-6832" target="_blank">JoNova</a> blog:<br />
<br />
<img src="http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/graphs/lappi/Gisp-ice-10000-r..png" border="0" alt="[Image: Gisp-ice-10000-r..png]" /><br />
<br />
That was for GREENLAND.The cooling trend is now over 6,500 years long.<br />
<br />
This chart for ANTARCTICA shows a cooling trend of about 5,500 years:<br />
<br />
<img src="http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/graphs/lappi/vostok-last-12000-years-web.gif" border="0" alt="[Image: vostok-last-12000-years-web.gif]" /><br />
<br />
It is funny when people exhibit deep fear of a trace gas (CO2) that supposedly causes a lot of warming from a tiny increase of it the atmosphere,where it is still a trace gas at about 385 parts per MILLION by volume (ppmv),after rising for at least 120 years.That they fail to realize that CO2 has never been shown to CAUSE a cooling trend that is now over 5,000 years running by trend.<br />
<br />
People,I think it is the near future COOLING trend that we would be worried about and prepare for.<br />
<br />
We should be very worried.We should be dropping this absurd warming fear and prepare for the inevitable cool down,that I believe is very near.The Little Ice Age may have been an aborted/failed plunge into the 90,000 year COLD part of the cycle.<br />
<br />
We may not be lucky next time.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[The new skeptical life]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-421.html</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:15:12 -0600</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello readers and may I wish all of you a merry Christmas.<br />
<br />
This was a good year for the skeptics,since many new science papers and good layman presentations I have read in the internet,have put the alarmists into the defensive.They know it too since their arrogant behavior has changed in recent months as their hold on the masses has been eroding.<br />
<br />
It is increasingly apparent that there has been some shady behavior going on behind closed doors and the obstruction publicized over at Climate Audit and Watts Up With That,among those skeptical websites who have been trying to open up the databases of certain published science papers that were published by the more prominent AGW believing scientists.To see if the underlying data really supports the questionable claims they had made.<br />
<br />
Now we know why they resisted the requests so strongly.<br />
<br />
<img src="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Big Grin" title="Big Grin" /><br />
<br />
It seems that they wanted us to...... trust them and accept their questionable claims on faith.A very suspicious way to push a major science hypothesis that increasing levels of atmospheric CO2 would promote warming and especially through the POSITIVE feedback loop,where a run away warming trend could happen.Something that never happened in the last 500 million years and with estimated levels of CO2 in the atmosphere as high as 7,000 ppmv.<br />
<br />
<br />
The U.N.,world leaders,Environmentalist organizations,and the media along with the usual individual scammers,tried hard to scare the masses of the world with lurid <span style="font-style: italic;">around the corner</span> apocalypse,to compel them to support all kinds of economy killing schemes,while the proponents of those schemes would gain power and of course many &#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;.<br />
<br />
Of course some of the data was simply lost or missing for some reason,as Dr. Pielke learned not long ago,when he tried to get Dr. Jones to send him the requested data.<br />
<br />
<img src="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Rolleyes" title="Rolleyes" /><br />
<br />
When a small group of scientists behave in such a manner,it is a red flag because they are not behaving like a good researching scientist should.Since they should be <span style="font-weight: bold;">transparent </span>with their data for their science papers they published,for the purpose of allowing other scientists to then make the needed evaluation of the paper to see if it is viable and reproducible.Otherwise how can we know that their claims are supportable if they do not allow other scientists to freely examine the paper AND the data that is in support of the paper's conclusions.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">What would be the point of publishing science research and then disallow other scientists to examine them fully?</span><br />
<br />
I have been noting a big reduction of alarmist trolling in skeptical websites in the last few weeks,after the many revelations that scums from Al &#36;&#36;&#36; Gore,Rajendra Pachauri on down to other long known weaseling AGW believing scientists,were brought up.It is refreshing to see that happening since it is plain they know that something is wrong with their absurd AGW religion.<br />
<br />
Now what will we see for next year?<br />
<br />
A slow recovery back to good science research and that all those government organizations will back off on pressuring people to produce desired conclusions.<br />
<br />
or,<br />
<br />
 will they continue to perpetuate their inappropriate behavior in a different way,to try continuing their AGW scam.<br />
<br />
In all cases we skeptics need to continue to apply pressure on them to produce a much more transparent future in their science research and the publishing of the papers in FULL.<br />
<br />
It is sad that many laymen like me have to take a part in this process,since by logic we should not be qualified enough to argue with them and their conclusion on websites.It is absurd that we have come to this level,because climate science is badly corrupted by a small group of alarmists scientists and other people,who drags down the reputation of the many good scientists who have all along been doing their research in good faith.<br />
<br />
I would rather run a political forum than a skeptical climate forum,because I dislike having to second guess a lot of scientists,since that was supposed to be done by OTHER scientists,if it was being done the way it was supposed to be.<br />
<br />
I think the IPCC should be disbanded and evict all science publication editors,who have been deliberate in blocking the "skeptical" view or simply papers that just does not support a certain AGW viewpoint.Otherwise how can we have confidence that what they do will be done in good faith,when they have not been doing that for many years.<br />
<br />
As for the ignorant alarmists who has been polluting forums with their evasive alarmist bullshit,why don't YOU grow up and get a life!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello readers and may I wish all of you a merry Christmas.<br />
<br />
This was a good year for the skeptics,since many new science papers and good layman presentations I have read in the internet,have put the alarmists into the defensive.They know it too since their arrogant behavior has changed in recent months as their hold on the masses has been eroding.<br />
<br />
It is increasingly apparent that there has been some shady behavior going on behind closed doors and the obstruction publicized over at Climate Audit and Watts Up With That,among those skeptical websites who have been trying to open up the databases of certain published science papers that were published by the more prominent AGW believing scientists.To see if the underlying data really supports the questionable claims they had made.<br />
<br />
Now we know why they resisted the requests so strongly.<br />
<br />
<img src="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Big Grin" title="Big Grin" /><br />
<br />
It seems that they wanted us to...... trust them and accept their questionable claims on faith.A very suspicious way to push a major science hypothesis that increasing levels of atmospheric CO2 would promote warming and especially through the POSITIVE feedback loop,where a run away warming trend could happen.Something that never happened in the last 500 million years and with estimated levels of CO2 in the atmosphere as high as 7,000 ppmv.<br />
<br />
<br />
The U.N.,world leaders,Environmentalist organizations,and the media along with the usual individual scammers,tried hard to scare the masses of the world with lurid <span style="font-style: italic;">around the corner</span> apocalypse,to compel them to support all kinds of economy killing schemes,while the proponents of those schemes would gain power and of course many &#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;&#36;.<br />
<br />
Of course some of the data was simply lost or missing for some reason,as Dr. Pielke learned not long ago,when he tried to get Dr. Jones to send him the requested data.<br />
<br />
<img src="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Rolleyes" title="Rolleyes" /><br />
<br />
When a small group of scientists behave in such a manner,it is a red flag because they are not behaving like a good researching scientist should.Since they should be <span style="font-weight: bold;">transparent </span>with their data for their science papers they published,for the purpose of allowing other scientists to then make the needed evaluation of the paper to see if it is viable and reproducible.Otherwise how can we know that their claims are supportable if they do not allow other scientists to freely examine the paper AND the data that is in support of the paper's conclusions.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">What would be the point of publishing science research and then disallow other scientists to examine them fully?</span><br />
<br />
I have been noting a big reduction of alarmist trolling in skeptical websites in the last few weeks,after the many revelations that scums from Al &#36;&#36;&#36; Gore,Rajendra Pachauri on down to other long known weaseling AGW believing scientists,were brought up.It is refreshing to see that happening since it is plain they know that something is wrong with their absurd AGW religion.<br />
<br />
Now what will we see for next year?<br />
<br />
A slow recovery back to good science research and that all those government organizations will back off on pressuring people to produce desired conclusions.<br />
<br />
or,<br />
<br />
 will they continue to perpetuate their inappropriate behavior in a different way,to try continuing their AGW scam.<br />
<br />
In all cases we skeptics need to continue to apply pressure on them to produce a much more transparent future in their science research and the publishing of the papers in FULL.<br />
<br />
It is sad that many laymen like me have to take a part in this process,since by logic we should not be qualified enough to argue with them and their conclusion on websites.It is absurd that we have come to this level,because climate science is badly corrupted by a small group of alarmists scientists and other people,who drags down the reputation of the many good scientists who have all along been doing their research in good faith.<br />
<br />
I would rather run a political forum than a skeptical climate forum,because I dislike having to second guess a lot of scientists,since that was supposed to be done by OTHER scientists,if it was being done the way it was supposed to be.<br />
<br />
I think the IPCC should be disbanded and evict all science publication editors,who have been deliberate in blocking the "skeptical" view or simply papers that just does not support a certain AGW viewpoint.Otherwise how can we have confidence that what they do will be done in good faith,when they have not been doing that for many years.<br />
<br />
As for the ignorant alarmists who has been polluting forums with their evasive alarmist bullshit,why don't YOU grow up and get a life!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Nutball AGW believers ]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-291.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:35:30 -0600</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[This late in the climate scaremongering game,the best they can come up with these days are these examples of stupid AGW baloney by attacking skeptics with their patented fact less rants.<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Non climatologist</span> and professional nutball Prime Minister <span style="font-weight: bold;">Kevin Rudd</span>,thinks we skeptics are.... he he,dangerous.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>"As we approach Copenhagen, these three groups of climate sceptics are quite literally holding the world to ransom," he told policy think-tank the Lowy Institute in Sydney. ;-) In fact, climate change skeptics are "reckless gamblers".</blockquote>
<br />
<a href="http://motls.blogspot.com/2009/11/kevin-rudd-deniers-are-dangerous.html" target="_blank">http://motls.blogspot.com/2009/11/kevin-...erous.html</a><br />
<br />
Really this from the same dufus who pushed this and is failing big time:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>DESPITE repeatedly brandishing its green credentials, the Rudd Government has reneged on its election promise to run Parliament House and MPs electoral offices on clean energy.<br />
<br />
It has also failed to deliver on a promise to upgrade all government office buildings to minimum five-star greenhouse ratings.<br />
<br />
The promise to use renewable energy was made in a speech by Kevin Rudd in the lead-up to the 2007 election, but so far little or no progress has been made.</blockquote>
<br />
<a href="http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=1183" target="_blank">http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=1183</a><br />
<br />
He can't do his own freaking office buildings!<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!<br />
</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Rajendra Pachauri</span>, chairman of the IPCC and a famous <span style="text-decoration: underline;">non climatologist</span>,states what he thinks of a government report in his own words: <br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Rajendra Pachauri, the chairman of the IPCC, told the Guardian: "We have a very clear idea of what is happening. I don't know why the minister is supporting this unsubstantiated research. It is an extremely arrogant statement."</blockquote>
<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/09/india-pachauri-climate-glaciers" target="_blank">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/20...e-glaciers</a><br />
<br />
Further reading in the link fails to find any highly trained comments from the overblown railway engineer,to counter the government report claims.It is all wind and piss and I think he knows it.<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Margot ONeill</span> blowhard blogger thinks we skeptics are insane or worse! A quick skim of her Lateline blog should cure you of any thoughts that she is a rational being.Here is a quote from her own feathered pen:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>So is the IPCC really that kooky? Have thousands of participating scientists from around the world who've contributed to four IPCC reports since 1990 duped the world with hidden agendas and manipulated science? Have they all got it wrong?<br />
<br />
I should point out that the IPCC's conclusions are supported in most countries by most major scientific bodies. In Australia that includes the CSIRO, the Australian Academy of Science, and the Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies, to name a few.<br />
<br />
The UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was established in 1988 by the World Meteorological Organisation (WMO) and the UN Environment Program (UNEP). It has issued four reports (1990, 1995, 2001 and 2007) each asserting with increasing certainty that the globe is warming (now 100 per cent certain) and that human driven greenhouse gas emissions are largely to blame (now 90 per cent certain). The next report is due 2014.<br />
<br />
While it is called a 'panel,' the IPCC is actually one of the most ambitious scientific undertakings in history bringing together hundreds of scientists and other experts who are generally nominated by their governments or by non-government organisations (such as the Australian Academy of Science or the CSIRO). But the IPCC is also policy-neutral. Its job is to present the best science. There is not a single policy recommendation in its reports.</blockquote>
<br />
<a href="http://blogs.abc.net.au/events/copenhagen/" target="_blank">http://blogs.abc.net.au/events/copenhagen/</a><br />
<br />
I should vomit.<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Jeff Schweitzer</span> who actually has some science background (but unfortunately for his 19 fans,<span style="text-decoration: underline;">no climatology</span> degree),tried hard to cover up that truth with his article,calling us skeptics evil and stupid too:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-schweitzer/you-cant-say-sorry-when-m_b_347202.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-schwe...47202.html</a><br />
<br />
His sizzling crap,<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>When these tragic events unfold, an apology from the faithful will be inadequate.  Sorry does not suffice in the face of millions of unnecessary deaths and the preventable disruption of hundreds of millions of lives.</blockquote>
<br />
Sorry to say for a guy who is a marine biologist,he left out actual science facts in the article.<br />
<br />
<br />
Another <span style="text-decoration: underline;">non climatologist</span> and famous blowhard politician <span style="font-weight: bold;">John Kerry</span> tries hard to spew out inane comments,such as this stupidity:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Kerry: You realize that there are something like two or three thousand studies all of which concur which have been peer reviewed, and not one of the studies dissenting has been peer reviewed?<br />
<br />
Green: Thats not correct, Senator.<br />
<br />
Kerry: Show me a peer reviewed study.<br />
<br />
Green: Ill send you a list.<br />
<br />
Kerry: Please, because nobody else has.</blockquote>
<br />
<a href="http://www.climatechangefraud.com/politics-propaganda/5572-john-kerry-stunningly-stupid-stunningly-misinformed-display-from-a-guy-who-wants-to-reconfigure-the-us-economy-in-response-to-a-hoax" target="_blank">http://www.climatechangefraud.com/politi...-to-a-hoax</a><br />
<br />
He was told about this link:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html" target="_blank">http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10...rting.html</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">David Suzuki</span> the eco-propagandist sadist and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">non climatologist</span>,who wanted to jail people for the terrible crime of being skeptics:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=290513" target="_blank">http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=290513</a><br />
<br />
<br />
Then we have this howler from a blog posted by <span style="font-weight: bold;">Craig A. James</span>:<br />
<span style="color: blue;"><br />
A Devil's Pact to Deny Global Warming: Creationist and Business</span><br />
<br />
A man who still fails to understand that his post is really dumb,by reading through the comments in the link.They tear him apart and his replies are shallow and stupid.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>one thing is clear: Most global-warming deniers are also conservative religious fundamentalists who believe in creationism. These are the people who ignore expertise of virtually every scientist on Earth about evolution, and they apparently have no trouble extending their ignorance to the environmental sciences.</blockquote>
<br />
<a href="http://religionvirus.blogspot.com/2009/08/devils-pact-to-deny-global-warming.html" target="_blank">http://religionvirus.blogspot.com/2009/0...rming.html</a><br />
<br />
That was the best he could come up with?<br />
<br />
Ad Homonyms <br />
<br />
No hard hitting attack on the alleged errors on what "deniers" writes in their papers?<br />
<br />
What you read here was just a sampling of the shallow thinking,they run on.They think they are the planetary saviors and gosh if we peons do not listen to them we are doomed,<span style="font-weight: bold;">DOOMED!</span> The alarmist bullshit and the insane attacks on climate researchers they seriously write about in all contrary to reality and reason,is why they are losing the argument.The average people who have had to read the cacophony of doomsday messages for YEARS from the media and from the loudmouth hysterics of the Al Gore camp,have finally realized they are being given the alarmist environmentalist propaganda.<br />
<br />
This late in the game,why would people <span style="text-decoration: underline;">continue</span> to allow themselves to be lied to,and still be considered dumb enough to follow their unsupported environmentalist propaganda anymore?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This late in the climate scaremongering game,the best they can come up with these days are these examples of stupid AGW baloney by attacking skeptics with their patented fact less rants.<br />
<br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Non climatologist</span> and professional nutball Prime Minister <span style="font-weight: bold;">Kevin Rudd</span>,thinks we skeptics are.... he he,dangerous.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>"As we approach Copenhagen, these three groups of climate sceptics are quite literally holding the world to ransom," he told policy think-tank the Lowy Institute in Sydney. ;-) In fact, climate change skeptics are "reckless gamblers".</blockquote>
<br />
<a href="http://motls.blogspot.com/2009/11/kevin-rudd-deniers-are-dangerous.html" target="_blank">http://motls.blogspot.com/2009/11/kevin-...erous.html</a><br />
<br />
Really this from the same dufus who pushed this and is failing big time:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>DESPITE repeatedly brandishing its green credentials, the Rudd Government has reneged on its election promise to run Parliament House and MPs electoral offices on clean energy.<br />
<br />
It has also failed to deliver on a promise to upgrade all government office buildings to minimum five-star greenhouse ratings.<br />
<br />
The promise to use renewable energy was made in a speech by Kevin Rudd in the lead-up to the 2007 election, but so far little or no progress has been made.</blockquote>
<br />
<a href="http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=1183" target="_blank">http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?p=1183</a><br />
<br />
He can't do his own freaking office buildings!<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!<br />
</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Rajendra Pachauri</span>, chairman of the IPCC and a famous <span style="text-decoration: underline;">non climatologist</span>,states what he thinks of a government report in his own words: <br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Rajendra Pachauri, the chairman of the IPCC, told the Guardian: "We have a very clear idea of what is happening. I don't know why the minister is supporting this unsubstantiated research. It is an extremely arrogant statement."</blockquote>
<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/09/india-pachauri-climate-glaciers" target="_blank">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/20...e-glaciers</a><br />
<br />
Further reading in the link fails to find any highly trained comments from the overblown railway engineer,to counter the government report claims.It is all wind and piss and I think he knows it.<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Margot ONeill</span> blowhard blogger thinks we skeptics are insane or worse! A quick skim of her Lateline blog should cure you of any thoughts that she is a rational being.Here is a quote from her own feathered pen:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>So is the IPCC really that kooky? Have thousands of participating scientists from around the world who've contributed to four IPCC reports since 1990 duped the world with hidden agendas and manipulated science? Have they all got it wrong?<br />
<br />
I should point out that the IPCC's conclusions are supported in most countries by most major scientific bodies. In Australia that includes the CSIRO, the Australian Academy of Science, and the Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies, to name a few.<br />
<br />
The UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was established in 1988 by the World Meteorological Organisation (WMO) and the UN Environment Program (UNEP). It has issued four reports (1990, 1995, 2001 and 2007) each asserting with increasing certainty that the globe is warming (now 100 per cent certain) and that human driven greenhouse gas emissions are largely to blame (now 90 per cent certain). The next report is due 2014.<br />
<br />
While it is called a 'panel,' the IPCC is actually one of the most ambitious scientific undertakings in history bringing together hundreds of scientists and other experts who are generally nominated by their governments or by non-government organisations (such as the Australian Academy of Science or the CSIRO). But the IPCC is also policy-neutral. Its job is to present the best science. There is not a single policy recommendation in its reports.</blockquote>
<br />
<a href="http://blogs.abc.net.au/events/copenhagen/" target="_blank">http://blogs.abc.net.au/events/copenhagen/</a><br />
<br />
I should vomit.<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Jeff Schweitzer</span> who actually has some science background (but unfortunately for his 19 fans,<span style="text-decoration: underline;">no climatology</span> degree),tried hard to cover up that truth with his article,calling us skeptics evil and stupid too:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-schweitzer/you-cant-say-sorry-when-m_b_347202.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-schwe...47202.html</a><br />
<br />
His sizzling crap,<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>When these tragic events unfold, an apology from the faithful will be inadequate.  Sorry does not suffice in the face of millions of unnecessary deaths and the preventable disruption of hundreds of millions of lives.</blockquote>
<br />
Sorry to say for a guy who is a marine biologist,he left out actual science facts in the article.<br />
<br />
<br />
Another <span style="text-decoration: underline;">non climatologist</span> and famous blowhard politician <span style="font-weight: bold;">John Kerry</span> tries hard to spew out inane comments,such as this stupidity:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Kerry: You realize that there are something like two or three thousand studies all of which concur which have been peer reviewed, and not one of the studies dissenting has been peer reviewed?<br />
<br />
Green: Thats not correct, Senator.<br />
<br />
Kerry: Show me a peer reviewed study.<br />
<br />
Green: Ill send you a list.<br />
<br />
Kerry: Please, because nobody else has.</blockquote>
<br />
<a href="http://www.climatechangefraud.com/politics-propaganda/5572-john-kerry-stunningly-stupid-stunningly-misinformed-display-from-a-guy-who-wants-to-reconfigure-the-us-economy-in-response-to-a-hoax" target="_blank">http://www.climatechangefraud.com/politi...-to-a-hoax</a><br />
<br />
He was told about this link:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html" target="_blank">http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10...rting.html</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">David Suzuki</span> the eco-propagandist sadist and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">non climatologist</span>,who wanted to jail people for the terrible crime of being skeptics:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=290513" target="_blank">http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=290513</a><br />
<br />
<br />
Then we have this howler from a blog posted by <span style="font-weight: bold;">Craig A. James</span>:<br />
<span style="color: blue;"><br />
A Devil's Pact to Deny Global Warming: Creationist and Business</span><br />
<br />
A man who still fails to understand that his post is really dumb,by reading through the comments in the link.They tear him apart and his replies are shallow and stupid.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>one thing is clear: Most global-warming deniers are also conservative religious fundamentalists who believe in creationism. These are the people who ignore expertise of virtually every scientist on Earth about evolution, and they apparently have no trouble extending their ignorance to the environmental sciences.</blockquote>
<br />
<a href="http://religionvirus.blogspot.com/2009/08/devils-pact-to-deny-global-warming.html" target="_blank">http://religionvirus.blogspot.com/2009/0...rming.html</a><br />
<br />
That was the best he could come up with?<br />
<br />
Ad Homonyms <br />
<br />
No hard hitting attack on the alleged errors on what "deniers" writes in their papers?<br />
<br />
What you read here was just a sampling of the shallow thinking,they run on.They think they are the planetary saviors and gosh if we peons do not listen to them we are doomed,<span style="font-weight: bold;">DOOMED!</span> The alarmist bullshit and the insane attacks on climate researchers they seriously write about in all contrary to reality and reason,is why they are losing the argument.The average people who have had to read the cacophony of doomsday messages for YEARS from the media and from the loudmouth hysterics of the Al Gore camp,have finally realized they are being given the alarmist environmentalist propaganda.<br />
<br />
This late in the game,why would people <span style="text-decoration: underline;">continue</span> to allow themselves to be lied to,and still be considered dumb enough to follow their unsupported environmentalist propaganda anymore?]]></content:encoded>
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<br />
I will soon be posting an occasional blog commentary here,on something that especially interest me.I have no idea how often I can post them but I will try to make them coherent and accurate as possible.<br />
<br />
It is also my opportunity to post my full thoughts on what I have read and learned over the years.I think you will be surprised on some of it,because I think some skeptics get too carried away in what they believe or react to alarmists comments.They are not completely wrong on what they have been claiming for years,just badly off base using too many uncertainties and unproven conclusions.<br />
<br />
This is my way out of using the Wordpress Blog I own at another site.That place is now in archive and will be deleted at a further date.<br />
<br />
I will allow comments,insults and donations.<br />
<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Members and Guests,<br />
<br />
I will soon be posting an occasional blog commentary here,on something that especially interest me.I have no idea how often I can post them but I will try to make them coherent and accurate as possible.<br />
<br />
It is also my opportunity to post my full thoughts on what I have read and learned over the years.I think you will be surprised on some of it,because I think some skeptics get too carried away in what they believe or react to alarmists comments.They are not completely wrong on what they have been claiming for years,just badly off base using too many uncertainties and unproven conclusions.<br />
<br />
This is my way out of using the Wordpress Blog I own at another site.That place is now in archive and will be deleted at a further date.<br />
<br />
I will allow comments,insults and donations.<br />
<br />
 <img src="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" />]]></content:encoded>
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