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			<title><![CDATA[Greetings from American Forum]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:16:13 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[My name is Jacob Hall, and while this message isn't strictly an introduction, it certainly doubles as one.  Before I begin, I'll say that it is not my intention to offend the owner of this forum with this proposal, but I don't believe it will offend either.<br />
<br />
I am working on an online project called American Forum that aims to achieve two things.  The first aspect of the project concerns an information database of issues that are important or relevant in the United States.  Such issues would fall into categories such as social, economic, and environmental, which would include (you guessed it) global warming.  The goal of this side of American Forum is to provide extensive and accurate details about issues in a way that does not overwhelm a casual reader.  The "coverage" of specific issues is NOT aimed at promoting any one side, but rather to explain the background behind all opinions on the matter and to present ALL the facts.<br />
<br />
The second goal of the project is to create an environment where US citizens can have an open dialogue about these issues, and discuss their concerns.  There are many far-off goals of the forum side of the website, including the ability for people to craft (with the aid of paid legal staff) and support (via online signature) legislation at the state and federal level.<br />
<br />
What this has to do with these forums I will now explain.  I've begun working on this project only in the past few weeks, and I've started with global warming.  It took me only a few hours of work before I realized that the effort that would have to go into providing a full and balanced account of global warming could take one person months or very easily years.  I am here, therefore, to offer a proposition to the members of this forum.<br />
<br />
As I mentioned above, it is not the goal of American Forum to advance the agenda of one side of any particular issue, but rather to explain why each side believes what it does, in order to reach the always out-of-reach common ground compromise that democracy lives on.  For the articles concerning global warming, that means providing a full account of the science that continues to sustain skeptical attitudes towards AGW, and ultimately to make that science and those doubts answerable before the AGW advocates (and vice versa) in a professional and intelligent forum.  The goal is to create a forum for dialogue where skeptics and advocates can talk to each other, not past each other.<br />
<br />
My request, then, is a sort of call to arms to the users of this forum.  I'm trying to put together a group of people to collaborate on a series of global warming articles that are factually accurate and representative of skeptics as well as advocates, which is where I'm asking for your help.  This will be an intensive effort that requires expertise and objectivity.  Anyone who agrees to help will be committing themselves to helping not only explain the opinions of skeptics, but what science there is to back those opinions up, what the implications of that science are, and perhaps most crucially be able to see what limitations exist that prevent said science from being a universal disproof of AGW.  It, as I have come to realize, is not the work of amateurs, and I am hoping for people with professional, or at the very least academic, experience in the fields of science that concern global warming, namely meteorology, geology, oceanography, chemistry, physics, and astro-physics.  I want to be honest with anyone who considers the offer; it will involve amassing dozens of scientific sources and fact checking them, often alongside AGW advocates.<br />
<br />
My last pitch to you is that this project, American Forum, has intrigued everyone I've spoken to about it.  I think it represents something that people are hungry for in the information age, which is good information.  I can spend a week researching the skepticism behind global warming, then another week researching the proof behind it, and find "conclusive" proof the whole way along.  What I feel many people want is a place where they know they can go to see all the information without having to worry that it will be undercut a week later by some new fact, and they want to do it without having to spend five years wading through myth, vested interests, and half-truth sources.  Global warming is an issue that seems important to most of you, and though this is an offer for volunteer work, I hope you see it as a chance to expose the truth of the issue on a medium that will hopefully be used by millions some day.<br />
<br />
Thanks for sticking with me this far, and I'm eager to hear your thoughts.<br />
<br />
Jacob Hall]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[My name is Jacob Hall, and while this message isn't strictly an introduction, it certainly doubles as one.  Before I begin, I'll say that it is not my intention to offend the owner of this forum with this proposal, but I don't believe it will offend either.<br />
<br />
I am working on an online project called American Forum that aims to achieve two things.  The first aspect of the project concerns an information database of issues that are important or relevant in the United States.  Such issues would fall into categories such as social, economic, and environmental, which would include (you guessed it) global warming.  The goal of this side of American Forum is to provide extensive and accurate details about issues in a way that does not overwhelm a casual reader.  The "coverage" of specific issues is NOT aimed at promoting any one side, but rather to explain the background behind all opinions on the matter and to present ALL the facts.<br />
<br />
The second goal of the project is to create an environment where US citizens can have an open dialogue about these issues, and discuss their concerns.  There are many far-off goals of the forum side of the website, including the ability for people to craft (with the aid of paid legal staff) and support (via online signature) legislation at the state and federal level.<br />
<br />
What this has to do with these forums I will now explain.  I've begun working on this project only in the past few weeks, and I've started with global warming.  It took me only a few hours of work before I realized that the effort that would have to go into providing a full and balanced account of global warming could take one person months or very easily years.  I am here, therefore, to offer a proposition to the members of this forum.<br />
<br />
As I mentioned above, it is not the goal of American Forum to advance the agenda of one side of any particular issue, but rather to explain why each side believes what it does, in order to reach the always out-of-reach common ground compromise that democracy lives on.  For the articles concerning global warming, that means providing a full account of the science that continues to sustain skeptical attitudes towards AGW, and ultimately to make that science and those doubts answerable before the AGW advocates (and vice versa) in a professional and intelligent forum.  The goal is to create a forum for dialogue where skeptics and advocates can talk to each other, not past each other.<br />
<br />
My request, then, is a sort of call to arms to the users of this forum.  I'm trying to put together a group of people to collaborate on a series of global warming articles that are factually accurate and representative of skeptics as well as advocates, which is where I'm asking for your help.  This will be an intensive effort that requires expertise and objectivity.  Anyone who agrees to help will be committing themselves to helping not only explain the opinions of skeptics, but what science there is to back those opinions up, what the implications of that science are, and perhaps most crucially be able to see what limitations exist that prevent said science from being a universal disproof of AGW.  It, as I have come to realize, is not the work of amateurs, and I am hoping for people with professional, or at the very least academic, experience in the fields of science that concern global warming, namely meteorology, geology, oceanography, chemistry, physics, and astro-physics.  I want to be honest with anyone who considers the offer; it will involve amassing dozens of scientific sources and fact checking them, often alongside AGW advocates.<br />
<br />
My last pitch to you is that this project, American Forum, has intrigued everyone I've spoken to about it.  I think it represents something that people are hungry for in the information age, which is good information.  I can spend a week researching the skepticism behind global warming, then another week researching the proof behind it, and find "conclusive" proof the whole way along.  What I feel many people want is a place where they know they can go to see all the information without having to worry that it will be undercut a week later by some new fact, and they want to do it without having to spend five years wading through myth, vested interests, and half-truth sources.  Global warming is an issue that seems important to most of you, and though this is an offer for volunteer work, I hope you see it as a chance to expose the truth of the issue on a medium that will hopefully be used by millions some day.<br />
<br />
Thanks for sticking with me this far, and I'm eager to hear your thoughts.<br />
<br />
Jacob Hall]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Site problems?]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-882.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:40:00 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[The last few days I have not been able to bring up this site.  To my relief the site came up yesterday, but I have not been able to log on.  Today I tried again.  Still could not log on.  I tried to leave a message in the guest forum.  Somehow I managed worm my way in.  I don't know exactly how.  I am going to log off and try again. <br />
<br />
I was not successful in logging in again.  Again I went to the guest forum to post.  I received a message.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Authorization code mismatch  </blockquote>
  <br />
<br />
But, again I noticed I was logged on when I didn't log on.  <br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>MyBB has experienced an internal SQL error and cannot continue.<br />
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SQL Error:<br />
    1054 - Unknown column 'remember' in 'field list'<br />
Query:<br />
    SELECT uid,username,password,salt,loginkey,remember,passwordconvert,passwordconverttype&#8203; FROM mybb_users WHERE username='goose52' LIMIT 1 </blockquote>
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This is the message I get when I attempt to log on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[The last few days I have not been able to bring up this site.  To my relief the site came up yesterday, but I have not been able to log on.  Today I tried again.  Still could not log on.  I tried to leave a message in the guest forum.  Somehow I managed worm my way in.  I don't know exactly how.  I am going to log off and try again. <br />
<br />
I was not successful in logging in again.  Again I went to the guest forum to post.  I received a message.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Authorization code mismatch  </blockquote>
  <br />
<br />
But, again I noticed I was logged on when I didn't log on.  <br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>MyBB has experienced an internal SQL error and cannot continue.<br />
<br />
SQL Error:<br />
    1054 - Unknown column 'remember' in 'field list'<br />
Query:<br />
    SELECT uid,username,password,salt,loginkey,remember,passwordconvert,passwordconverttype&#8203; FROM mybb_users WHERE username='goose52' LIMIT 1 </blockquote>
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<br />
This is the message I get when I attempt to log on.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Is the Moon falling apart?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:42:18 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Increasing numbers of cracks have begun to appear on the Moon<br />
<br />
Freshly discovered scars on the face of the Moon reveal that this rocky satellite is shrinking at a relatively rapid pace, say researchers based in Germany and the US. Images collected by NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter show surface faulting that, they say, reflects significant contraction in the Moon's recent geological past.<br />
<br />
The research team used the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC), launched in 2009 aboard the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, the first spacecraft to be launched as part of NASA’s "return to the Moon" initiative. It contains three different cameras designed to deal with both narrow and wide angle high-resolution photography. This high level of detail revealed 14 lunar landforms known as lobate scarps, similar to thrust faults on Earth that result from compressional forces such as plate tectonics.<br />
<br />
Half of the located scarps are at high latitudes (±60°), proving that they are globally distributed and not clustered near the equator as previously thought. These factors indicate "recent contraction of the whole Moon, likely due to cooling of the lunar interior," says Thomas Watters of the Smithsonian Institution’s National Air and Space Museum, lead author of the paper. </blockquote>
<br />
<a href="http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/43534" target="_blank">http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/43534</a><br />
<br />
NASA will surely get more funding to research this, after all, it could affect climate on Earth sometime in the future or break into pieces and rain down on us.  Of course, it could be the lack of IR radiation from the Earth due to the GHG from burning of hydrocarbons that has caused it to cool.  Just tell the politicians that the cracks are fresh-looking (don't mention the time scales - hide the decline) and assure them that Man is to blame.  Then sit back and watch your bank balance swell.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Sorry, I just couldn't resist that out-burst.</span><br />
<br />
<img src="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Big Grin" title="Big Grin" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Increasing numbers of cracks have begun to appear on the Moon<br />
<br />
Freshly discovered scars on the face of the Moon reveal that this rocky satellite is shrinking at a relatively rapid pace, say researchers based in Germany and the US. Images collected by NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter show surface faulting that, they say, reflects significant contraction in the Moon's recent geological past.<br />
<br />
The research team used the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC), launched in 2009 aboard the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, the first spacecraft to be launched as part of NASA’s "return to the Moon" initiative. It contains three different cameras designed to deal with both narrow and wide angle high-resolution photography. This high level of detail revealed 14 lunar landforms known as lobate scarps, similar to thrust faults on Earth that result from compressional forces such as plate tectonics.<br />
<br />
Half of the located scarps are at high latitudes (±60°), proving that they are globally distributed and not clustered near the equator as previously thought. These factors indicate "recent contraction of the whole Moon, likely due to cooling of the lunar interior," says Thomas Watters of the Smithsonian Institution’s National Air and Space Museum, lead author of the paper. </blockquote>
<br />
<a href="http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/43534" target="_blank">http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/43534</a><br />
<br />
NASA will surely get more funding to research this, after all, it could affect climate on Earth sometime in the future or break into pieces and rain down on us.  Of course, it could be the lack of IR radiation from the Earth due to the GHG from burning of hydrocarbons that has caused it to cool.  Just tell the politicians that the cracks are fresh-looking (don't mention the time scales - hide the decline) and assure them that Man is to blame.  Then sit back and watch your bank balance swell.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Sorry, I just couldn't resist that out-burst.</span><br />
<br />
<img src="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Big Grin" title="Big Grin" />]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-869.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 21:57:39 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[This was a comment in reply to this question:<br />
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<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Anonymous said...<br />
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    how did HMS investigator get this far north at the end of the Little Ice Age?"</blockquote>
<br />
The reply:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>You are asking a difficult question, which might make some people a bit uncomfortable. If you're not careful, someone might mistake you for a climate denier, which of course is the same as a holocaust denier. Holocaust denier!!!</blockquote>
 <br />
<br />
He he...<br />
<br />
<a href="http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2010/08/ship-find-shows-arctic-sea-ice.html#comments" target="_blank">LINK</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This was a comment in reply to this question:<br />
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<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Anonymous said...<br />
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    how did HMS investigator get this far north at the end of the Little Ice Age?"</blockquote>
<br />
The reply:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>You are asking a difficult question, which might make some people a bit uncomfortable. If you're not careful, someone might mistake you for a climate denier, which of course is the same as a holocaust denier. Holocaust denier!!!</blockquote>
 <br />
<br />
He he...<br />
<br />
<a href="http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2010/08/ship-find-shows-arctic-sea-ice.html#comments" target="_blank">LINK</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[What do you think?]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-867.html</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 20:18:21 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I found this in a political forum.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Five surgeons are discussing who makes the best patients to operate on.<br />
<br />
The first surgeon says, I like to see accountants on my operating table because when you open them up, everything inside is numbered.<br />
<br />
The second responds, Yeah, but you should try electricians! Everything inside them is color coded.<br />
<br />
The third surgeon says, No, I really think librarians are the best; Everything inside is in alphabetical order.<br />
<br />
The fourth surgeon chimes in; You know, I like construction workers. Those guys always understand when you have a few parts left over at the end, and when the job takes longer than you said it would.<br />
<br />
But the fifth surgeon shut them all up when he observed; You're all wrong. Liberals are the easiest to operate on. There's no guts, no heart, no balls, no brains and no spine, and the head and the ass are interchangeable.</blockquote>
<br />
<img src="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Big Grin" title="Big Grin" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I found this in a political forum.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Five surgeons are discussing who makes the best patients to operate on.<br />
<br />
The first surgeon says, I like to see accountants on my operating table because when you open them up, everything inside is numbered.<br />
<br />
The second responds, Yeah, but you should try electricians! Everything inside them is color coded.<br />
<br />
The third surgeon says, No, I really think librarians are the best; Everything inside is in alphabetical order.<br />
<br />
The fourth surgeon chimes in; You know, I like construction workers. Those guys always understand when you have a few parts left over at the end, and when the job takes longer than you said it would.<br />
<br />
But the fifth surgeon shut them all up when he observed; You're all wrong. Liberals are the easiest to operate on. There's no guts, no heart, no balls, no brains and no spine, and the head and the ass are interchangeable.</blockquote>
<br />
<img src="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Big Grin" title="Big Grin" />]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[The Monthly Monckton Cfact.]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-866.html</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:23:47 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi All,<br />
I have subscibed to the below.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://cfact.us1.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=87b74a936c723115dfa298cf3&amp;id=39da085a2d" target="_blank">http://cfact.us1.list-manage.com/subscri...39da085a2d</a> <br />
<br />
I sent an email as follows in regards to the first issue I recieved, and the possibility of making it available here as well.<br />
<br />
"<span style="color: #0000CD;"> <span style="font-weight: bold;">Dear cfact,<br />
Firstly, excellant, I look forward to future monthly issues.<br />
I have attached a couple of word documents of the first copy of The Monthly Monckton that I have quickly made by simple copy and paste.<br />
I ask, can I post these word documents on a thread yet to be created on this forum,<br />
<a href="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/index.php" target="_blank">http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/index.php</a> <br />
 <br />
yours,<br />
Derek Alker,<br />
aka Derek.</span></span><br />
<br />
I received the following reply.<br />
<br />
" <span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: #1E90FF;">Derek,<br />
<br />
Thank you for your interest in The Monthly Monckton. We are excited that you want to share the issue!<br />
<br />
However, we would request that you do not post these word documents to the forum. <br />
Please ask your friends to either sign up by clicking on this link ( <a href="http://eepurl.com/FUXz)" target="_blank">http://eepurl.com/FUXz)</a> or <br />
have them view the introduction email with excerpts here:<br />
<a href="http://us1.admin.mailchimp.com/campaigns/preview?id=1215977" target="_blank">http://us1.admin.mailchimp.com/campaigns...id=1215977</a><br />
<br />
We ask that you do not post the full issue to the forum because the content is specifically for subscribers. <br />
Hopefully your colleagues will find it useful enough to subscribe themselves, as you have done.<br />
<br />
Thank you again for your help in spreading the message!<br />
<br />
Regards,<br />
Administrator</span> </span>"<br />
<br />
The first issue is excellant, and <br />
I think most would find subscription beneficial.<br />
<br />
I also later received an email from Lord Monckton,<br />
<br />
" <span style="color: #9400D3;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Many thanks for letting people know about the newsletter. - M of B <br />
<br />
The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley</span></span> "<br />
<br />
And I thought, <span style="font-weight: bold;">oooops</span>, I'd better post that....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi All,<br />
I have subscibed to the below.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://cfact.us1.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=87b74a936c723115dfa298cf3&amp;id=39da085a2d" target="_blank">http://cfact.us1.list-manage.com/subscri...39da085a2d</a> <br />
<br />
I sent an email as follows in regards to the first issue I recieved, and the possibility of making it available here as well.<br />
<br />
"<span style="color: #0000CD;"> <span style="font-weight: bold;">Dear cfact,<br />
Firstly, excellant, I look forward to future monthly issues.<br />
I have attached a couple of word documents of the first copy of The Monthly Monckton that I have quickly made by simple copy and paste.<br />
I ask, can I post these word documents on a thread yet to be created on this forum,<br />
<a href="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/index.php" target="_blank">http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/index.php</a> <br />
 <br />
yours,<br />
Derek Alker,<br />
aka Derek.</span></span><br />
<br />
I received the following reply.<br />
<br />
" <span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: #1E90FF;">Derek,<br />
<br />
Thank you for your interest in The Monthly Monckton. We are excited that you want to share the issue!<br />
<br />
However, we would request that you do not post these word documents to the forum. <br />
Please ask your friends to either sign up by clicking on this link ( <a href="http://eepurl.com/FUXz)" target="_blank">http://eepurl.com/FUXz)</a> or <br />
have them view the introduction email with excerpts here:<br />
<a href="http://us1.admin.mailchimp.com/campaigns/preview?id=1215977" target="_blank">http://us1.admin.mailchimp.com/campaigns...id=1215977</a><br />
<br />
We ask that you do not post the full issue to the forum because the content is specifically for subscribers. <br />
Hopefully your colleagues will find it useful enough to subscribe themselves, as you have done.<br />
<br />
Thank you again for your help in spreading the message!<br />
<br />
Regards,<br />
Administrator</span> </span>"<br />
<br />
The first issue is excellant, and <br />
I think most would find subscription beneficial.<br />
<br />
I also later received an email from Lord Monckton,<br />
<br />
" <span style="color: #9400D3;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Many thanks for letting people know about the newsletter. - M of B <br />
<br />
The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley</span></span> "<br />
<br />
And I thought, <span style="font-weight: bold;">oooops</span>, I'd better post that....]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Fox on the Lilo (no, not the TV station)]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-865.html</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 07:34:28 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[So what has this to do with global warming? Do read on.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1301765/The-fox-cub-caught-lounging-swimming-pool-lilo.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">The fox cub caught lounging around on swimming pool lilo</span></span></a><br />
<br />
By <span style="font-weight: bold;">Beth Hale</span><br />
Last updated at 10:03 AM on 11th August 2010<br />
<br />
The covered paddling pool must have seemed an irresistible playground for an adventurous fox cub.<br />
But it found itself in deep trouble after the cover gave way, plunging it into the cold water.<br />
Homeowner John Barnes was awoken at 5am by splashing and found the shivering animal had managed to clamber aboard an airbed in the middle of the pool.<br />
<br />
Mr Barnes, 52, took this picture before using a rake to push the lilo towards the edge, but the frightened fox snapped at it and toppled back into the water.<br />
With a last despairing effort, however, it regained the airbed and managed to scramble over the edge of the plastic pool before disappearing into the undergrowth in Selsdon, near Croydon.<br />
Foxes are reluctant swimmers and the temperature of the water would have rapidly affected the animal. Mr Barnes’s wife Ann said: <span style="font-weight: bold;">‘We’ve had the pool for two months and every time we’ve been in it the water has been just freezing.’</span><br />
She added that by the time the fox was back on dry land, it was so tired it could barely walk. ‘It’s so lucky John was there.’<br />
The kind-hearted couple have now installed steps into their pool in case any other animals decide to go for a late-night swim.<br />
<br />
Trevor Williams, director of the Fox Project charity, said: ‘We have heard of foxes getting into water in gardens and before this case, all of them have ended with the fox losing its life.’<br />
Appearances of the urban fox appear to be on the rise.<br />
In June nine-month-old twins Lola and Isabella Koupparis, were mauled by an urban fox when they were sleeping in their cots at their home in Hackney, East London.</blockquote>
<br />
My emphasis. This is August in the Northern Hemisphere summer and the pool has been in use for two months and the water is freezing!<br />
<br />
I had been reading Dr Roy Spencer's blog and trying to understand his explanation of how "back radiation" can warm things up.<br />
<br />
Well, here we have several cubic meters of water insulated from the ground by the porta-pool plastic body and covered at night by a clear plastic sheet. Water radiates as a grey body, all IR bands from 3 to 100 microns. So called "back radiation" from a clear sky cannot reduce this energy loss at night such that all energy absorbed from the sun during the day is lost.<br />
<br />
If this was not the case the pool would not be "freezing" each day. I do not believe it was anywhere near ZERO CENTIGRADE, just cool enough to be uncomfortable for humans. The point is the pool was not warming up during the hottest part of the year and the record breaking "hottest year ever".<br />
<br />
I didn't post the picture cos it seemed to be from the Guardian. <img src="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Confused" title="Confused" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[So what has this to do with global warming? Do read on.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1301765/The-fox-cub-caught-lounging-swimming-pool-lilo.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">The fox cub caught lounging around on swimming pool lilo</span></span></a><br />
<br />
By <span style="font-weight: bold;">Beth Hale</span><br />
Last updated at 10:03 AM on 11th August 2010<br />
<br />
The covered paddling pool must have seemed an irresistible playground for an adventurous fox cub.<br />
But it found itself in deep trouble after the cover gave way, plunging it into the cold water.<br />
Homeowner John Barnes was awoken at 5am by splashing and found the shivering animal had managed to clamber aboard an airbed in the middle of the pool.<br />
<br />
Mr Barnes, 52, took this picture before using a rake to push the lilo towards the edge, but the frightened fox snapped at it and toppled back into the water.<br />
With a last despairing effort, however, it regained the airbed and managed to scramble over the edge of the plastic pool before disappearing into the undergrowth in Selsdon, near Croydon.<br />
Foxes are reluctant swimmers and the temperature of the water would have rapidly affected the animal. Mr Barnes’s wife Ann said: <span style="font-weight: bold;">‘We’ve had the pool for two months and every time we’ve been in it the water has been just freezing.’</span><br />
She added that by the time the fox was back on dry land, it was so tired it could barely walk. ‘It’s so lucky John was there.’<br />
The kind-hearted couple have now installed steps into their pool in case any other animals decide to go for a late-night swim.<br />
<br />
Trevor Williams, director of the Fox Project charity, said: ‘We have heard of foxes getting into water in gardens and before this case, all of them have ended with the fox losing its life.’<br />
Appearances of the urban fox appear to be on the rise.<br />
In June nine-month-old twins Lola and Isabella Koupparis, were mauled by an urban fox when they were sleeping in their cots at their home in Hackney, East London.</blockquote>
<br />
My emphasis. This is August in the Northern Hemisphere summer and the pool has been in use for two months and the water is freezing!<br />
<br />
I had been reading Dr Roy Spencer's blog and trying to understand his explanation of how "back radiation" can warm things up.<br />
<br />
Well, here we have several cubic meters of water insulated from the ground by the porta-pool plastic body and covered at night by a clear plastic sheet. Water radiates as a grey body, all IR bands from 3 to 100 microns. So called "back radiation" from a clear sky cannot reduce this energy loss at night such that all energy absorbed from the sun during the day is lost.<br />
<br />
If this was not the case the pool would not be "freezing" each day. I do not believe it was anywhere near ZERO CENTIGRADE, just cool enough to be uncomfortable for humans. The point is the pool was not warming up during the hottest part of the year and the record breaking "hottest year ever".<br />
<br />
I didn't post the picture cos it seemed to be from the Guardian. <img src="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" border="0" alt="Confused" title="Confused" />]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Drilling Ahead: Cashing in on the enviro agenda, Greenbacks for green drilling?]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-863.html</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:08:12 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[This article may intrigue some of you:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://drillingcontractor.org/drilling-ahead-cashing-in-on-the-enviro-agenda-greenbacks-for-green-drilling-2510" target="_blank">http://drillingcontractor.org/drilling-a...lling-2510</a><br />
<br />
It is a bit long to reproduce here, so here are a couple of quotes:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Even as environmental agendas delay well permitting and cause other headaches, new opportunities may loom for “green” drilling. Two areas in particular present themselves – CO2 geologic storage and geothermal drilling.<br />
<br />
As Pritchard Capital somewhat breathlessly phrased it in a recent e-missive, “Geothermal is hot and getting hotter.” As previously reported herein, &#36;90 million of US funding was designated for geothermal technologies. The funding is for work on conventional geothermal resources and for “enhanced” geothermal.<br />
<br />
Longtime DC readers may recall “enhanced” geothermal from 1991, when Los Alamos invited IADC to organize a drillers’ delegation to tour the New Mexico facility and learn about “hot dry rocks” – now reborn with the rather more marketable moniker “enhanced” geothermal. In short, an injector and a producer are drilled into non-permeable, heat-bearing strata. The rock is fractured, tepid water pumped in and hot water produced to generate electricity.<br />
<br />
A &#36;500 million-plus annual bonanza in drilling and well services predicted in ’91 has yet to emerge. Even today, backed by fed funds, progress is shaky. One recent, well-publicized DOE-funded project in California’s Geysers by AltaRock Energy was suspended in early September after failures re-entering and deepening the first well. Each of AltaRock’s three redrill attempts ended in failure, the well collapsing and trapping the BHA. The company suggested several culprits – long-term injection, difficult geology, and the well rework itself. AltaRock would not comment to DC beyond the information on its website.</blockquote>
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>The other prospective green gusher for well services is CO2 geologic storage. Suggestions for CO2 disposal modes abound. Our industry has been injecting the stuff downhole in tertiary oil-recovery programs for decades. Kinder Morgan CO2  alone delivers some 1.3 billion cu ft through 1,300 miles of pipelines. Much of this is produced from domes in the western US, ironic in an age of CO2 terror.</blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This article may intrigue some of you:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://drillingcontractor.org/drilling-ahead-cashing-in-on-the-enviro-agenda-greenbacks-for-green-drilling-2510" target="_blank">http://drillingcontractor.org/drilling-a...lling-2510</a><br />
<br />
It is a bit long to reproduce here, so here are a couple of quotes:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Even as environmental agendas delay well permitting and cause other headaches, new opportunities may loom for “green” drilling. Two areas in particular present themselves – CO2 geologic storage and geothermal drilling.<br />
<br />
As Pritchard Capital somewhat breathlessly phrased it in a recent e-missive, “Geothermal is hot and getting hotter.” As previously reported herein, &#36;90 million of US funding was designated for geothermal technologies. The funding is for work on conventional geothermal resources and for “enhanced” geothermal.<br />
<br />
Longtime DC readers may recall “enhanced” geothermal from 1991, when Los Alamos invited IADC to organize a drillers’ delegation to tour the New Mexico facility and learn about “hot dry rocks” – now reborn with the rather more marketable moniker “enhanced” geothermal. In short, an injector and a producer are drilled into non-permeable, heat-bearing strata. The rock is fractured, tepid water pumped in and hot water produced to generate electricity.<br />
<br />
A &#36;500 million-plus annual bonanza in drilling and well services predicted in ’91 has yet to emerge. Even today, backed by fed funds, progress is shaky. One recent, well-publicized DOE-funded project in California’s Geysers by AltaRock Energy was suspended in early September after failures re-entering and deepening the first well. Each of AltaRock’s three redrill attempts ended in failure, the well collapsing and trapping the BHA. The company suggested several culprits – long-term injection, difficult geology, and the well rework itself. AltaRock would not comment to DC beyond the information on its website.</blockquote>
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>The other prospective green gusher for well services is CO2 geologic storage. Suggestions for CO2 disposal modes abound. Our industry has been injecting the stuff downhole in tertiary oil-recovery programs for decades. Kinder Morgan CO2  alone delivers some 1.3 billion cu ft through 1,300 miles of pipelines. Much of this is produced from domes in the western US, ironic in an age of CO2 terror.</blockquote>
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			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-858.html</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:36:04 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Are there any podcasts on the topic that I should know about?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Are there any podcasts on the topic that I should know about?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Eureka …Revisited. (The untold “discovery”)]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-855.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:06:43 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Some may recall this "old" piece of mine, I have forgotten to repost after the old forum went.<br />
<span style="color: #FF0000;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Later edit - Bathroom "window" now corrected / updated <br />
- my apologies if any confusion was on my part inadvertently caused.</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Eureka …Revisited.<br />
(The man servant's untold story and “discovery”)</span></span></span><br />
<br />
The door slammed shut. The running footsteps, and the shrill almost manic vocal repetitions of, <br />
“Eureka”  "Eureka", "Eureka" faded away into the distance.<br />
John (the man servant) was left bemused, stood almost rooted to the floor <br />
still holding the towel his master was supposed to be wrapped in. <br />
Then it happened, the small, but reassuringly solid clunk of <br />
the recently fitted automated locking system latching into place.<br />
He was locked in the bathroom.<br />
<br />
Archy (John being “the” trusted servant was allowed to call him such) had left the building.  <br />
Archimedes, as everyone knew him,  continued, on his now infamous journey, stark naked, screaming "Eureka" <br />
all the way to the King’s palace, to tell the king of his realization. <br />
Much fame, and no doubt riches then fell Archimedes way.<br />
But back at home the trusted and now forgotten man servant <br />
was just realizing the predicament he was in.<br />
<br />
Archimedes was no ordinary man. He had built much to his own specifications <br />
that the real reasoning behind was not obvious to most. <br />
The locking system being a sort of exception, it’s purpose was obvious. <br />
“They” may break in but the doors are all locked upon the master leaving the house, so only one room could be burgled. <br />
It sort of made sense, “they” got something, and Archy did not loose everything. <br />
Crime is probably the oldest “profession” after all. <br />
John had been there at “the” moment of Archie’s realization, his feet had got very wet after all. <br />
His first thought naturally enough being “Where’s the mop and bucket”,<br />
Archie’s athletic leap, and departure had left him somewhat aghast though. <br />
I suspect that John realized the brainwave Archy had just had, he was the trusted one for good reason. <br />
He was trustworthy and had a good brain. He was also well aware of<br />
much that  Archy was working on, and of his masters lines of thought.<br />
<br />
Did he know about the reasoning behind the “peculiar” bathroom design. Almost certainly, it was also “obvious” as well really. <br />
The room was roughly 10 feet tall (1*), and the “bath” was relatively too large for the room. <br />
It covered a little more than 70 percent of the floor area (2*), and <br />
was a strange, irregular shape, a collection of inter connected “pools” as such. <br />
The depth of the bath Archy had also been very specific about, it had to be roughly 2 foot 5 inches deep. (3*).  <br />
The ceiling was also peculiar. You could not see it, it was hidden by a veil that made the ceiling invisible…. <br />
He never did say how that was achieved. <br />
The important thing was that the ceiling included a window, if it was shut no heat escaped, if it was open, heat escaped. <br />
The more open the window, the more heat escaped, and the less open the window then less heat escaped. <br />
Up to this point John had “understood” the bathroom design, but <br />
there were other “things” John did not understand about the design. <br />
The bath never actually drained, it remained permanently “full”, <br />
there was a flow through the bath, it was not stagnant. <br />
John had never fathomed how that particular aspect worked but, it worked. <br />
There were hot water taps in various places, that Archy used to alter, they seemed to be fed from the bath itself <br />
as the bath never actually overflowed, but how again John did not know. <br />
There were also cold water taps. Archy used to alter these to get the bath’s temperature just right, for a bath, but <br />
he was obviously doing something else as well. John again was not too  sure how, <br />
but thought it might be something to do with the room’s temperature. <br />
The invisible ceiling, John knew it was invisible, and the sun shone through it, and warmed the bath, and the remaining floor, <br />
but quite how, again he was not sure.  <br />
The invisible window was controlled by a lever near the doorway, it had a graduated scale (4*) on it. <br />
This scale of opening was also unusual, it read “<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 00 %</span>” upto “<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 06 %</span>” as the window supposedly “closed”.  <br />
“<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 00 %</span>” apparently was not actually completely open, more like ajar if you like and <br />
you could not push the lever all the way to “<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 06 %</span>”, “<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 04 %</span>” was as far as it would go. <br />
Archy had said in time he’d work on that and “<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 06 %</span>” may eventually be possible, he thought, but<br />
did not actually know if the window could (supposedly) be “shut that much”.<br />
There was also an interesting note on the window's scale placed at about, or just below "<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 02 %</span>", it read,<br />
"<span style="font-weight: bold;">Level at which below plants die off</span>".<br />
John knew Archy had had much trouble with this "window", and Archy himself was not sure if "<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 06 %</span>" was actually more open or closed.<br />
In a fit of fustration one day Archy had declared "<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 06 %</span>" is more shut, and that's that.<br />
(Neither Archy or John even suspected that the scale for the window HAS been upto "<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 4 %</span>", and more.<br />
- TEN times (and more) than their windows scale. I suspect the window if they had known this, would of been redesigned / scrapped)<br />
John thought privately to himself Archy regretted such an arbitrary "decision", he knew Archy had no measurements from which to decide,<br />
just some thought experiments that he tried to pass off (usually completely successfully) to others as "real".<br />
John had always meant to discuss this with Archy, but for some reason he had never quite got around to it (again), someday maybe he would, or maybe not.<br />
He remembered the last time he had tried to raise the subject area, Archy had flown off into a rage, and called him many rude and unneccesary names.<br />
Archy had even questioned (in his rage) John's intelligence, parentage, and much more John knew to be irrelevant to the matter.<br />
<br />
This all left John in a bit of a sticky situation, getting sticker as well it was damned hot in the bathroom, nearer a sauna really. <br />
John did not like saunas…<br />
First of all he had to get cooler. So he pushed the lever as far as it would go towards “<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 00 %</span>” ie open, <br />
it did not seem to do much at all. So he pushed it the other way,<br />
obviously it’s “wrong” to go towards “<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 06 %</span>” but he tried it all the same.<br />
He sat back and waited, not a lot happened, it just seemed to get warmer as it had been <br />
although it might have been slightly less fast, but not to any great degree. <br />
John himself did not know if the "window" was more open or closed, or even if it had an effect he could feel.<br />
John felt increasingly uncomfortable though, as the steam from the hot bath seemed to make the room and the air less and less bearable. <br />
John became increasingly worried, it was getting hotter, the “window” was not having the desired for effect, or seemingly any effect really. <br />
What should he do. <br />
He was  beginning to get weaker, and increasingly he began to panic.<br />
The locked door stubbornly refused to open, <br />
he spent a lot of energy trying to open the window, without any effect. <br />
Should he block the sunlight coming in, no impossible. <br />
He was stumped. <br />
He sat down, adopted the pose that philosophers like to adopt in Greek statues and <br />
tried to clear his mind to think clearly. <br />
He had to think afresh, he’d obviously missed something, but what.<br />
<br />
He needed a cool drink so turned a cold water tap on, and because he was a bit stressed, <br />
(and the bath wouldn’t overflow anyway) left it running whilst he enjoyed a long cool drink of water. <br />
Several minutes passed, then he noticed the bath getting colder, and the room began to cool as well. Rapidly. <br />
EUREKA, use the bath to control the room’s temperature……..<br />
<br />
Archy got the public accolades for his water displacement but, <br />
really the forgotten servant made THE discovery, because of the bathroom design. <br />
It still works today, you can easily control your own bathroom’s temperature using bathwater. <br />
Obviously really, that’s why central heating systems use water in radiators. <br />
Water carries so much heat (and cold) energy. <br />
Control the water temperature and you control the room’s temperature. <br />
Archie’s bathroom was like a small version of the planet, and proves <br />
bath (ocean) temperature controls the room’s (planet’s) temperature, not the other way round.<br />
<br />
Now if John had looked under the bath, would there have been numerous small fires heating the bath from below, (5*) <br />
now that might effect room temperature that he was not aware of.<br />
And was Archy aware of this “other” heat source…most definitely not.<br />
<br />
(1*) = Troposhere between 8 to 14.5 miles high.<br />
<br />
(2*) = Oceans cover 71% of the Earth’s surface.<br />
<br />
(3*) = The world’s oceans are on average 2.3 to 2.46 miles deep.<br />
<br />
(4*) = Atmospheric concentration of CO2, percent.<br />
<br />
(5*) = The recently announced / discovered, (but not really accepted yet), 4th Class of volcanoes<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Some may recall this "old" piece of mine, I have forgotten to repost after the old forum went.<br />
<span style="color: #FF0000;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Later edit - Bathroom "window" now corrected / updated <br />
- my apologies if any confusion was on my part inadvertently caused.</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="color: #0000CD;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Eureka …Revisited.<br />
(The man servant's untold story and “discovery”)</span></span></span><br />
<br />
The door slammed shut. The running footsteps, and the shrill almost manic vocal repetitions of, <br />
“Eureka”  "Eureka", "Eureka" faded away into the distance.<br />
John (the man servant) was left bemused, stood almost rooted to the floor <br />
still holding the towel his master was supposed to be wrapped in. <br />
Then it happened, the small, but reassuringly solid clunk of <br />
the recently fitted automated locking system latching into place.<br />
He was locked in the bathroom.<br />
<br />
Archy (John being “the” trusted servant was allowed to call him such) had left the building.  <br />
Archimedes, as everyone knew him,  continued, on his now infamous journey, stark naked, screaming "Eureka" <br />
all the way to the King’s palace, to tell the king of his realization. <br />
Much fame, and no doubt riches then fell Archimedes way.<br />
But back at home the trusted and now forgotten man servant <br />
was just realizing the predicament he was in.<br />
<br />
Archimedes was no ordinary man. He had built much to his own specifications <br />
that the real reasoning behind was not obvious to most. <br />
The locking system being a sort of exception, it’s purpose was obvious. <br />
“They” may break in but the doors are all locked upon the master leaving the house, so only one room could be burgled. <br />
It sort of made sense, “they” got something, and Archy did not loose everything. <br />
Crime is probably the oldest “profession” after all. <br />
John had been there at “the” moment of Archie’s realization, his feet had got very wet after all. <br />
His first thought naturally enough being “Where’s the mop and bucket”,<br />
Archie’s athletic leap, and departure had left him somewhat aghast though. <br />
I suspect that John realized the brainwave Archy had just had, he was the trusted one for good reason. <br />
He was trustworthy and had a good brain. He was also well aware of<br />
much that  Archy was working on, and of his masters lines of thought.<br />
<br />
Did he know about the reasoning behind the “peculiar” bathroom design. Almost certainly, it was also “obvious” as well really. <br />
The room was roughly 10 feet tall (1*), and the “bath” was relatively too large for the room. <br />
It covered a little more than 70 percent of the floor area (2*), and <br />
was a strange, irregular shape, a collection of inter connected “pools” as such. <br />
The depth of the bath Archy had also been very specific about, it had to be roughly 2 foot 5 inches deep. (3*).  <br />
The ceiling was also peculiar. You could not see it, it was hidden by a veil that made the ceiling invisible…. <br />
He never did say how that was achieved. <br />
The important thing was that the ceiling included a window, if it was shut no heat escaped, if it was open, heat escaped. <br />
The more open the window, the more heat escaped, and the less open the window then less heat escaped. <br />
Up to this point John had “understood” the bathroom design, but <br />
there were other “things” John did not understand about the design. <br />
The bath never actually drained, it remained permanently “full”, <br />
there was a flow through the bath, it was not stagnant. <br />
John had never fathomed how that particular aspect worked but, it worked. <br />
There were hot water taps in various places, that Archy used to alter, they seemed to be fed from the bath itself <br />
as the bath never actually overflowed, but how again John did not know. <br />
There were also cold water taps. Archy used to alter these to get the bath’s temperature just right, for a bath, but <br />
he was obviously doing something else as well. John again was not too  sure how, <br />
but thought it might be something to do with the room’s temperature. <br />
The invisible ceiling, John knew it was invisible, and the sun shone through it, and warmed the bath, and the remaining floor, <br />
but quite how, again he was not sure.  <br />
The invisible window was controlled by a lever near the doorway, it had a graduated scale (4*) on it. <br />
This scale of opening was also unusual, it read “<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 00 %</span>” upto “<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 06 %</span>” as the window supposedly “closed”.  <br />
“<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 00 %</span>” apparently was not actually completely open, more like ajar if you like and <br />
you could not push the lever all the way to “<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 06 %</span>”, “<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 04 %</span>” was as far as it would go. <br />
Archy had said in time he’d work on that and “<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 06 %</span>” may eventually be possible, he thought, but<br />
did not actually know if the window could (supposedly) be “shut that much”.<br />
There was also an interesting note on the window's scale placed at about, or just below "<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 02 %</span>", it read,<br />
"<span style="font-weight: bold;">Level at which below plants die off</span>".<br />
John knew Archy had had much trouble with this "window", and Archy himself was not sure if "<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 06 %</span>" was actually more open or closed.<br />
In a fit of fustration one day Archy had declared "<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 06 %</span>" is more shut, and that's that.<br />
(Neither Archy or John even suspected that the scale for the window HAS been upto "<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 4 %</span>", and more.<br />
- TEN times (and more) than their windows scale. I suspect the window if they had known this, would of been redesigned / scrapped)<br />
John thought privately to himself Archy regretted such an arbitrary "decision", he knew Archy had no measurements from which to decide,<br />
just some thought experiments that he tried to pass off (usually completely successfully) to others as "real".<br />
John had always meant to discuss this with Archy, but for some reason he had never quite got around to it (again), someday maybe he would, or maybe not.<br />
He remembered the last time he had tried to raise the subject area, Archy had flown off into a rage, and called him many rude and unneccesary names.<br />
Archy had even questioned (in his rage) John's intelligence, parentage, and much more John knew to be irrelevant to the matter.<br />
<br />
This all left John in a bit of a sticky situation, getting sticker as well it was damned hot in the bathroom, nearer a sauna really. <br />
John did not like saunas…<br />
First of all he had to get cooler. So he pushed the lever as far as it would go towards “<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 00 %</span>” ie open, <br />
it did not seem to do much at all. So he pushed it the other way,<br />
obviously it’s “wrong” to go towards “<span style="font-weight: bold;">Point 06 %</span>” but he tried it all the same.<br />
He sat back and waited, not a lot happened, it just seemed to get warmer as it had been <br />
although it might have been slightly less fast, but not to any great degree. <br />
John himself did not know if the "window" was more open or closed, or even if it had an effect he could feel.<br />
John felt increasingly uncomfortable though, as the steam from the hot bath seemed to make the room and the air less and less bearable. <br />
John became increasingly worried, it was getting hotter, the “window” was not having the desired for effect, or seemingly any effect really. <br />
What should he do. <br />
He was  beginning to get weaker, and increasingly he began to panic.<br />
The locked door stubbornly refused to open, <br />
he spent a lot of energy trying to open the window, without any effect. <br />
Should he block the sunlight coming in, no impossible. <br />
He was stumped. <br />
He sat down, adopted the pose that philosophers like to adopt in Greek statues and <br />
tried to clear his mind to think clearly. <br />
He had to think afresh, he’d obviously missed something, but what.<br />
<br />
He needed a cool drink so turned a cold water tap on, and because he was a bit stressed, <br />
(and the bath wouldn’t overflow anyway) left it running whilst he enjoyed a long cool drink of water. <br />
Several minutes passed, then he noticed the bath getting colder, and the room began to cool as well. Rapidly. <br />
EUREKA, use the bath to control the room’s temperature……..<br />
<br />
Archy got the public accolades for his water displacement but, <br />
really the forgotten servant made THE discovery, because of the bathroom design. <br />
It still works today, you can easily control your own bathroom’s temperature using bathwater. <br />
Obviously really, that’s why central heating systems use water in radiators. <br />
Water carries so much heat (and cold) energy. <br />
Control the water temperature and you control the room’s temperature. <br />
Archie’s bathroom was like a small version of the planet, and proves <br />
bath (ocean) temperature controls the room’s (planet’s) temperature, not the other way round.<br />
<br />
Now if John had looked under the bath, would there have been numerous small fires heating the bath from below, (5*) <br />
now that might effect room temperature that he was not aware of.<br />
And was Archy aware of this “other” heat source…most definitely not.<br />
<br />
(1*) = Troposhere between 8 to 14.5 miles high.<br />
<br />
(2*) = Oceans cover 71% of the Earth’s surface.<br />
<br />
(3*) = The world’s oceans are on average 2.3 to 2.46 miles deep.<br />
<br />
(4*) = Atmospheric concentration of CO2, percent.<br />
<br />
(5*) = The recently announced / discovered, (but not really accepted yet), 4th Class of volcanoes<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[hello from Climate Realist]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:13:28 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello all,<br />
this is Climate Realist from the Climate Realists site dropping in to say hello and keep the climate real!!<br />
<br />
I'm taking a break from bickering with Grouper to chat with some like minded sensible folk here!<br />
<br />
remember, everything the CAGW side tell you is 180degrees from the truth!<br />
<br />
cheers<br />
<br />
CR]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello all,<br />
this is Climate Realist from the Climate Realists site dropping in to say hello and keep the climate real!!<br />
<br />
I'm taking a break from bickering with Grouper to chat with some like minded sensible folk here!<br />
<br />
remember, everything the CAGW side tell you is 180degrees from the truth!<br />
<br />
cheers<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[IPCC warns its scientists to avoid the media]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-822.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 03:22:40 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[From Physics World:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/43218" target="_blank">http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/43218</a><br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>IPCC warns its scientists to avoid the media:<br />
<br />
Scientists have reacted with dismay at a letter sent out by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) advising them not to talk to journalists. The letter was published just two days before the publication of a review of the “Climategate” affair that criticized researchers at the University of East Anglia for lacking openness.</blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[From Physics World:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/43218" target="_blank">http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/43218</a><br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>IPCC warns its scientists to avoid the media:<br />
<br />
Scientists have reacted with dismay at a letter sent out by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) advising them not to talk to journalists. The letter was published just two days before the publication of a review of the “Climategate” affair that criticized researchers at the University of East Anglia for lacking openness.</blockquote>
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			<title><![CDATA[Greenpeace enforces EU ROHS]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 03:20:56 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[EU prepares new ROHS and Greenpeace helps police it:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.edn.com/article/509743-ROHS_recast_Electronics_industry_braces_for_further_regulation.php" target="_blank">http://www.edn.com/article/509743-ROHS_r...lation.php</a><br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>"These companies are acting they way they do because Greenpeace has a gun to their heads," said Fern Abrams, director of government relations and environmental policy at the Association Connecting Electronics Industries (IPC) in Bannockburn, Ill.</blockquote>
<br />
Some of the comments are worth a read too.<hr />
Does this sound familiar?<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>In response to growing regulations, IPC has launched a campaign asking regulating bodies such as the European Parliament to make sure their regulations are based on actual science. Many in the electronics industry believe the regulations are politically based rather than based on improving the environment. "When you look at some of the proposed amendments, you begin to abandon hope that it will be scientific process," said IPC's Abrams. "Some of the amendments are quite disturbing to anyone who cares about science." </blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[EU prepares new ROHS and Greenpeace helps police it:<br />
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<a href="http://www.edn.com/article/509743-ROHS_recast_Electronics_industry_braces_for_further_regulation.php" target="_blank">http://www.edn.com/article/509743-ROHS_r...lation.php</a><br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>"These companies are acting they way they do because Greenpeace has a gun to their heads," said Fern Abrams, director of government relations and environmental policy at the Association Connecting Electronics Industries (IPC) in Bannockburn, Ill.</blockquote>
<br />
Some of the comments are worth a read too.<hr />
Does this sound familiar?<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>In response to growing regulations, IPC has launched a campaign asking regulating bodies such as the European Parliament to make sure their regulations are based on actual science. Many in the electronics industry believe the regulations are politically based rather than based on improving the environment. "When you look at some of the proposed amendments, you begin to abandon hope that it will be scientific process," said IPC's Abrams. "Some of the amendments are quite disturbing to anyone who cares about science." </blockquote>
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			<title><![CDATA[TRIP TO COSTCO]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:17:29 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="color: #0000CD;">From an e-mail:</span><br />
                                    <br />
  Yesterday I was at my local COSTCO buying a large bag of Purina<br />
dog chow for my loyal pet, Biscuit, the Wonder Dog and was in the<br />
checkout line when woman behind me asked if I had a dog.<br />
<br />
  What did she think I had, an elephant? So since I'm retired and have<br />
 little to do, on impulse I told her that no, I didn't have a dog, I<br />
 was starting the Purina Diet again. I added that I probably  shouldn't,<br />
 because I ended up in the hospital last time, but that I'd lost 50<br />
 pounds before I awakened in an intensive care ward with tubes <br />
coming out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms.<br />
  <br />
I told her that it was essentially a perfect diet and that the way that<br />
 it works is to load your pants pockets with Purina nuggets and simply eat<br />
 one or two every time you feel hungry. The food is nutritionally complete so<br />
it works well and I was going to try it again. (I have to<br />
mention here that practically everyone in line was now enthralled with my<br />
story.)<br />
 <br />
 Horrified, she asked if I ended up in intensive care because the<br />
dog food poisoned me. I told her no, I stepped off a curb to sniff an<br />
Irish Setter's ass and a car hit us both.<br />
  <br />
I thought the guy behind her was going to have a heart attack he was<br />
 laughing so hard.<br />
  <br />
Costco won't let me shop there anymore.<br />
  <br />
Better watch what you ask retired people.  They have all the time in the<br />
 world to think of crazy things to say. Forward  this (especially) to all<br />
 your retired friends......it will be their Laugh for the day..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="color: #0000CD;">From an e-mail:</span><br />
                                    <br />
  Yesterday I was at my local COSTCO buying a large bag of Purina<br />
dog chow for my loyal pet, Biscuit, the Wonder Dog and was in the<br />
checkout line when woman behind me asked if I had a dog.<br />
<br />
  What did she think I had, an elephant? So since I'm retired and have<br />
 little to do, on impulse I told her that no, I didn't have a dog, I<br />
 was starting the Purina Diet again. I added that I probably  shouldn't,<br />
 because I ended up in the hospital last time, but that I'd lost 50<br />
 pounds before I awakened in an intensive care ward with tubes <br />
coming out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms.<br />
  <br />
I told her that it was essentially a perfect diet and that the way that<br />
 it works is to load your pants pockets with Purina nuggets and simply eat<br />
 one or two every time you feel hungry. The food is nutritionally complete so<br />
it works well and I was going to try it again. (I have to<br />
mention here that practically everyone in line was now enthralled with my<br />
story.)<br />
 <br />
 Horrified, she asked if I ended up in intensive care because the<br />
dog food poisoned me. I told her no, I stepped off a curb to sniff an<br />
Irish Setter's ass and a car hit us both.<br />
  <br />
I thought the guy behind her was going to have a heart attack he was<br />
 laughing so hard.<br />
  <br />
Costco won't let me shop there anymore.<br />
  <br />
Better watch what you ask retired people.  They have all the time in the<br />
 world to think of crazy things to say. Forward  this (especially) to all<br />
 your retired friends......it will be their Laugh for the day..]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[UK Electric Car Survey]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 05:31:37 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: bold;">UK Electric Car Consumer Survey</span><br />
<br />
Let them know what you think:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;">Safeguarding our future</span><br />
<br />
The new UK Government, companies and organisations involved in reducing our carbon footprint, have ambitious intentions to make us, the consumer, change our lifestyle to contribute to this challenge.<br />
On a day-to-day basis how we conserve our energy resources at home; from where we select our fruit and vegetables when we shop; and what mode of transport we use to get around, are all factors that contribute to the reduction of our individual carbon footprint. But, inevitably, focus seemingly always returns to our cars – how it’s fuelled, engine size, its emissions – the list goes on!<br />
<br />
At Deloitte, we are aiming to obtain the most comprehensive overview of what you, the consumer, consider automotive manufacturers of electric vehicles (EV’s) could offer you and invite you to participate in the important new survey. <br />
<br />
In participating, you could win a new Apple iPad*<br />
<br />
The survey questions, which should take between 10 to 15 minutes to complete, will give the widest possible view of what consumers really believe access to electric vehicles may give to them. The analysis will be reviewed and available later this Summer, and we would be happy to provide you with the report, or alternatively, watch out on <a href="http://www.deloitte.co.uk/pointofview." target="_blank">http://www.deloitte.co.uk/pointofview.</a> <br />
<br />
Every participant of the survey who selects to provide their details at the conclusion of the questionnaire will be entered in to the prize draw to win an *Apple iPad 32GB with Wi-Fi option. The winner will be informed by Wednesday 29 September 2010.<br />
<br />
So let’s get your point of view <br />
<br />
To access, please click here to enter ‘Are trends electric?’ survey. <br />
We do hope you will take part, and appreciate your participation in ‘Are trends electric?’. </blockquote>
<br />
Link to survey:<br />
<a href="http://www.findlay.co.uk/survey/deloitte/are_trends_electric.htm?qd_360=826686" target="_blank">http://www.findlay.co.uk/survey/deloitte...360=826686</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-weight: bold;">UK Electric Car Consumer Survey</span><br />
<br />
Let them know what you think:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;">Safeguarding our future</span><br />
<br />
The new UK Government, companies and organisations involved in reducing our carbon footprint, have ambitious intentions to make us, the consumer, change our lifestyle to contribute to this challenge.<br />
On a day-to-day basis how we conserve our energy resources at home; from where we select our fruit and vegetables when we shop; and what mode of transport we use to get around, are all factors that contribute to the reduction of our individual carbon footprint. But, inevitably, focus seemingly always returns to our cars – how it’s fuelled, engine size, its emissions – the list goes on!<br />
<br />
At Deloitte, we are aiming to obtain the most comprehensive overview of what you, the consumer, consider automotive manufacturers of electric vehicles (EV’s) could offer you and invite you to participate in the important new survey. <br />
<br />
In participating, you could win a new Apple iPad*<br />
<br />
The survey questions, which should take between 10 to 15 minutes to complete, will give the widest possible view of what consumers really believe access to electric vehicles may give to them. The analysis will be reviewed and available later this Summer, and we would be happy to provide you with the report, or alternatively, watch out on <a href="http://www.deloitte.co.uk/pointofview." target="_blank">http://www.deloitte.co.uk/pointofview.</a> <br />
<br />
Every participant of the survey who selects to provide their details at the conclusion of the questionnaire will be entered in to the prize draw to win an *Apple iPad 32GB with Wi-Fi option. The winner will be informed by Wednesday 29 September 2010.<br />
<br />
So let’s get your point of view <br />
<br />
To access, please click here to enter ‘Are trends electric?’ survey. <br />
We do hope you will take part, and appreciate your participation in ‘Are trends electric?’. </blockquote>
<br />
Link to survey:<br />
<a href="http://www.findlay.co.uk/survey/deloitte/are_trends_electric.htm?qd_360=826686" target="_blank">http://www.findlay.co.uk/survey/deloitte...360=826686</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[UK Government buys into DAB switchover]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-810.html</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 09:56:20 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Government buys into DAB switchover but is it inline with Zero Carbon Britain?<br />
<a href="http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Articles/2010/07/09/49015/analysis-government-buys-into-dab-switchover.htm" target="_blank">http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Article...chover.htm</a><br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Analysis: Government buys into DAB switchover<br />
Steve Bush<br />
Friday 09 July 2010 14:20<br />
<br />
With the publishing of its Digital Radio Action Plan, the new Government has clearly bought into digital radio switchover, with a subtle change of emphasis to what's gone before.<br />
<br />
Gone is the barely optional headlong dive for 2015, which was promoted by the previous Government's Digital Britain Report.<br />
<br />
According to Communications Minister Ed Vaizey, the new Government will coax public acceptance of FM switch-off, rather than forcing the pace of transition.<br />
<br />
"The Digital Radio Action Plan I am publishing today sets out our clear commitment to make progress towards digital radio switchover. But I am not setting a date," he said. "The industry believes 2015 is an achievable target date and we will work to support that ambition. And when the weight of public opinion is behind it, with more than half of all radio listening digital, then we can take the decision on when the country will be ready for switchover."<br />
Click Here<br />
<br />
The Plan even goes so far as to use the phrase "if, or when, the market is ready".<br />
<br />
This said, the intention of the forceful Digital Britain report - which formed the basis of the Digital Economy Act 2010 that was ratified in the dying days of the previous Government - was always to have switch-over a minimum of two years after radio listening was 50% DAB - figures that have made it into the Act in sprit, as far as I can tell, rather than in explicit binding paragraphs.<br />
<br />
Currently around 25% of radio listening is over DAB.<br />
<br />
To its credit, the Plan is largely a business-like list of milestones and dates aiming at a pain-free - or at least none-to-painful - transition to all-DAB listening for all but ultra-local FM radio stations.<br />
<br />
Much of it is nuts-and-bolts technical scheduling, although there is a significant chunk dedicated to marketing switch-over as a good idea.<br />
<br />
Written in is the consumer expert group that was formed to review digital TV switch-over - including RNIB, British Wireless for the Blind Fund, the Voice of the Listener and Viewer, and Citizens' Advice - which has agreed to do the same for radio.<br />
<br />
The Plan's schedule ranges broadly, and does seek to cover some of the objections raised by those opposed to FM switch-off, including: sound quality, the cost of converting a household to DAB, automotive reception, and increasing DAB coverage to match FM.<br />
<br />
However, power consumption, the other major concern of those wanting to keep FM, is largely ignored.<br />
<br />
"Digital transmission networks are significantly more energy efficient than their analogue equivalents. For example, it is estimated that transmitting Classic FM nationally via DAB uses less than 7% of the electricity needed to transmit it via FM. Local and regional DAB transmissions offer energy savings of around 50 per cent," said Vaizey's department, the Department for Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) at the launch of the Plan.<br />
<br />
To back up its power claims, DCMS released an independent report on the power consumption of DAB and FM radios, written by Intertek in Milton Keynes.<br />
<br />
For reasons I have yet to fathom, battery-only receivers, which are most likely to suffer if DAB radios take more power than FM-only receivers, are not covered.<br />
<br />
Based on the mains consumption of 164 different radios, the report concludes there is little difference between FM and DAB radio consumption (Table 1 in the report, if you are interested).<br />
<br />
Although more detailed tables (Table 2, for example) show most DAB radios consuming significantly more power than FM-only models, except in the home cinema and Hi-Fi class where DAB equipment wins easily.<br />
<br />
It also shows digital receivers gradually improving their power consumption while FM receivers have stagnated.<br />
<br />
Interestingly, Internet streaming radios have the worst power consumption of all.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
The report seems to have missed that most people listen to radio in cars, on mobile phones, etc.  How convenient?  <br />
<br />
Who commissioned the report?  DEFRA of course.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Intertek Milton Keynes were commissioned by AEA Technology, to carry out research on behalf of the DEFRA Sustainable Products and Materials team to produce data on the energy performance of analogue and digital radio receivers and a model of the projected changes in energy consumption resulting from the proposed switchover to digital in 2015.</blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Government buys into DAB switchover but is it inline with Zero Carbon Britain?<br />
<a href="http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Articles/2010/07/09/49015/analysis-government-buys-into-dab-switchover.htm" target="_blank">http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Article...chover.htm</a><br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Analysis: Government buys into DAB switchover<br />
Steve Bush<br />
Friday 09 July 2010 14:20<br />
<br />
With the publishing of its Digital Radio Action Plan, the new Government has clearly bought into digital radio switchover, with a subtle change of emphasis to what's gone before.<br />
<br />
Gone is the barely optional headlong dive for 2015, which was promoted by the previous Government's Digital Britain Report.<br />
<br />
According to Communications Minister Ed Vaizey, the new Government will coax public acceptance of FM switch-off, rather than forcing the pace of transition.<br />
<br />
"The Digital Radio Action Plan I am publishing today sets out our clear commitment to make progress towards digital radio switchover. But I am not setting a date," he said. "The industry believes 2015 is an achievable target date and we will work to support that ambition. And when the weight of public opinion is behind it, with more than half of all radio listening digital, then we can take the decision on when the country will be ready for switchover."<br />
Click Here<br />
<br />
The Plan even goes so far as to use the phrase "if, or when, the market is ready".<br />
<br />
This said, the intention of the forceful Digital Britain report - which formed the basis of the Digital Economy Act 2010 that was ratified in the dying days of the previous Government - was always to have switch-over a minimum of two years after radio listening was 50% DAB - figures that have made it into the Act in sprit, as far as I can tell, rather than in explicit binding paragraphs.<br />
<br />
Currently around 25% of radio listening is over DAB.<br />
<br />
To its credit, the Plan is largely a business-like list of milestones and dates aiming at a pain-free - or at least none-to-painful - transition to all-DAB listening for all but ultra-local FM radio stations.<br />
<br />
Much of it is nuts-and-bolts technical scheduling, although there is a significant chunk dedicated to marketing switch-over as a good idea.<br />
<br />
Written in is the consumer expert group that was formed to review digital TV switch-over - including RNIB, British Wireless for the Blind Fund, the Voice of the Listener and Viewer, and Citizens' Advice - which has agreed to do the same for radio.<br />
<br />
The Plan's schedule ranges broadly, and does seek to cover some of the objections raised by those opposed to FM switch-off, including: sound quality, the cost of converting a household to DAB, automotive reception, and increasing DAB coverage to match FM.<br />
<br />
However, power consumption, the other major concern of those wanting to keep FM, is largely ignored.<br />
<br />
"Digital transmission networks are significantly more energy efficient than their analogue equivalents. For example, it is estimated that transmitting Classic FM nationally via DAB uses less than 7% of the electricity needed to transmit it via FM. Local and regional DAB transmissions offer energy savings of around 50 per cent," said Vaizey's department, the Department for Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) at the launch of the Plan.<br />
<br />
To back up its power claims, DCMS released an independent report on the power consumption of DAB and FM radios, written by Intertek in Milton Keynes.<br />
<br />
For reasons I have yet to fathom, battery-only receivers, which are most likely to suffer if DAB radios take more power than FM-only receivers, are not covered.<br />
<br />
Based on the mains consumption of 164 different radios, the report concludes there is little difference between FM and DAB radio consumption (Table 1 in the report, if you are interested).<br />
<br />
Although more detailed tables (Table 2, for example) show most DAB radios consuming significantly more power than FM-only models, except in the home cinema and Hi-Fi class where DAB equipment wins easily.<br />
<br />
It also shows digital receivers gradually improving their power consumption while FM receivers have stagnated.<br />
<br />
Interestingly, Internet streaming radios have the worst power consumption of all.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
The report seems to have missed that most people listen to radio in cars, on mobile phones, etc.  How convenient?  <br />
<br />
Who commissioned the report?  DEFRA of course.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Intertek Milton Keynes were commissioned by AEA Technology, to carry out research on behalf of the DEFRA Sustainable Products and Materials team to produce data on the energy performance of analogue and digital radio receivers and a model of the projected changes in energy consumption resulting from the proposed switchover to digital in 2015.</blockquote>
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			<title><![CDATA[40 Words You Can't Say to a Climate Reporter]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-809.html</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 04:00:34 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Time Magazine has an article "<a href="http://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2010/07/10/the-ipccs-media-problem/" target="_blank">The IPCC's Media Problem</a>" on some of the manifestations of "Post-normal Science":<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>First is a letter from Dr. Rajendra Pachauri, the IPCC's chairman. In it Pachauri says that his "sincere advice" is that researchers should "keep a distance from the media," and refer all questions about their work to the co-chairs of their individual working groups. (The IPCC assessments are divided into three working groups that deal with different parts of climate science.) The second document is a "media guide" for climate researchers put together by Resource Media, a non-profit NGO that has helped publicize the IPCC's work in the past. (You can see the document <a href="http://timeecocentric.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/ipccmediatips.pdf" target="_blank">here</a>.) In the guide, Resource Media advises researchers on where reporters may be coming from—apparently we tend to be jaded, world-weary, poor and sensitive to criticism—and how to deal with them. The advice ranges from the helpful—if you don't know the answer to a question, say so—to the goofy: "Be positive." Especially jarring, though, is a list of words that the guide suggests scientists should avoid using when talking to the media because they may be misunderstood. Now, like any science reporter, I'm all for researchers avoiding unnecessary jargon—of which there is much in climate science. But some of the words to avoid are just, well, strange. Here's a selection:<br />
<br />
PDF<br />
<br />
Review<br />
<br />
Species<br />
<br />
Positive<br />
<br />
Negative<br />
<br />
Theory<br />
<br />
Uncertainty<br />
<br />
Error<br />
<br />
Ecology<br />
<br />
(Yes, that's right. Researchers who are working on what will be the biggest scientific project on the biggest environmental problem in human history are for some reason supposed to avoid the term "ecology." I guess we should just be glad they didn't include "climate" and "change" on this list.)</blockquote>
<br />
The link to the Resource Media document "Background &amp; Tips  for  Responding  to  the Media" is included in the quote above.<br />
<br />
The advice is rounded off with this:<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Finally … avoid scientific jargon. <br />
Below is a list of words that mean one thing to scientists <br />
and something else entirely to the public and reporters. To <br />
lower the risk of being misunderstood, avoid them. Ask a <br />
media expert for alternatives.</blockquote>
<br />
The list includes the "scientific jargon" words:<br />
Uncertainty  Literature  Risk  Bias  Error Proposal  Positive  Negative Theory  Manipulation<br />
<br />
Presumably reporters (and by extension the rest of us thickos) may misinterpret a word like "Uncertainty". We certainly don't misinterpret a word like "Manipulation".]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Time Magazine has an article "<a href="http://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2010/07/10/the-ipccs-media-problem/" target="_blank">The IPCC's Media Problem</a>" on some of the manifestations of "Post-normal Science":<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>First is a letter from Dr. Rajendra Pachauri, the IPCC's chairman. In it Pachauri says that his "sincere advice" is that researchers should "keep a distance from the media," and refer all questions about their work to the co-chairs of their individual working groups. (The IPCC assessments are divided into three working groups that deal with different parts of climate science.) The second document is a "media guide" for climate researchers put together by Resource Media, a non-profit NGO that has helped publicize the IPCC's work in the past. (You can see the document <a href="http://timeecocentric.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/ipccmediatips.pdf" target="_blank">here</a>.) In the guide, Resource Media advises researchers on where reporters may be coming from—apparently we tend to be jaded, world-weary, poor and sensitive to criticism—and how to deal with them. The advice ranges from the helpful—if you don't know the answer to a question, say so—to the goofy: "Be positive." Especially jarring, though, is a list of words that the guide suggests scientists should avoid using when talking to the media because they may be misunderstood. Now, like any science reporter, I'm all for researchers avoiding unnecessary jargon—of which there is much in climate science. But some of the words to avoid are just, well, strange. Here's a selection:<br />
<br />
PDF<br />
<br />
Review<br />
<br />
Species<br />
<br />
Positive<br />
<br />
Negative<br />
<br />
Theory<br />
<br />
Uncertainty<br />
<br />
Error<br />
<br />
Ecology<br />
<br />
(Yes, that's right. Researchers who are working on what will be the biggest scientific project on the biggest environmental problem in human history are for some reason supposed to avoid the term "ecology." I guess we should just be glad they didn't include "climate" and "change" on this list.)</blockquote>
<br />
The link to the Resource Media document "Background &amp; Tips  for  Responding  to  the Media" is included in the quote above.<br />
<br />
The advice is rounded off with this:<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>Finally … avoid scientific jargon. <br />
Below is a list of words that mean one thing to scientists <br />
and something else entirely to the public and reporters. To <br />
lower the risk of being misunderstood, avoid them. Ask a <br />
media expert for alternatives.</blockquote>
<br />
The list includes the "scientific jargon" words:<br />
Uncertainty  Literature  Risk  Bias  Error Proposal  Positive  Negative Theory  Manipulation<br />
<br />
Presumably reporters (and by extension the rest of us thickos) may misinterpret a word like "Uncertainty". We certainly don't misinterpret a word like "Manipulation".]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Malthus with a computer]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-806.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 06:28:17 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[From <span style="font-weight: bold;"><a href="http://calderup.wordpress.com/2010/06/24/malthus-with-a-computer/" target="_blank">Calder´s Updates</a></span>:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>The model predicts a shocking loss of life from air pollution. As reported last week by Peter Shawn Taylor in Canada’s Financial Post, McKitrick put 1960s levels of air pollution into the model and found that the deaths it attributed to pollution in the Toronto area <span style="font-weight: bold;">reached more than 100% of all the people who actually died</span>. As McKitrick said, “It just doesn’t make sense.”</blockquote>
<br />
<img src="http://calderup.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/limits_standard1.jpg" border="0" alt="[Image: limits_standard1.jpg]" /><br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>[...]The Limits to Growth, 1972 [...] That may sound familiar, but four decades ago the pollution wasn’t greenhouse gases but good old-fashioned smog and poisonous wastes from industry and agriculture.<br />
<br />
[...]<br />
<br />
<div style="text-align: center;">A trend is a trend is a trend<br />
<br />
But when and how does it bend?<br />
<br />
Does it rise to the sky,<br />
<br />
Or lie down and die,<br />
<br />
Or asymptote on to the end?<br />
<br />
(Chris Freeman)<br />
</div></blockquote>
<br />
From <a href="http://opinion.financialpost.com/2010/06/15/junk-science-week-the-missing-smog-dead/" target="_blank">Finantial Post´s link </a>in Calder´s:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>The invisibility of the smog death toll, and the debate over the clinical mechanisms by which pollution might affect human health, put even greater focus on the reliability of the computer models behind all these numbers. To what extent can the models be trusted?<br />
<br />
Epidemiological modelling efforts are entirely inferred: Evidence on deaths and hospitalizations are fed into a computer, along with air pollution and other possible factors. Then statistical correlations are estimated.<br />
<br />
In the case of the CMA’s model, the selected pollutants are ozone and particulate matter of 2.5 microns. Boadway explains these two factors were chosen among all other possibilities <span style="font-weight: bold;">on the recommendation of an international panel of experts</span>. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Choosing your explanatory variables ahead of time and then looking for significant links is called model selection.</span><br />
<br />
McKitrick uses a different approach, something called Bayesian model averaging. Such a method is necessary, he claims, due to the sheer number of possible variables involved. <span style="font-weight: bold;">“There are literally tens of billions of potential combinations,”</span> McKitrick observes. Besides numerous different forms of air pollution, researchers may also include time-delayed measurements, as well as independent factors such as weather, lifestyle and income. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Allowing authors to arbitrarily pick the variables through model selection creates uncertainty and opens the potential for cherry-picking the most desirable results, he says</span>.</blockquote>
<br />
<span style="color: #0000CD;">It looks that McKitrick has found another hockey stick...</span><br />
<br />
(This is to continue the thread "Population control" in <a href="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-744.html" target="_blank">http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/fo...d-744.html</a> )]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[From <span style="font-weight: bold;"><a href="http://calderup.wordpress.com/2010/06/24/malthus-with-a-computer/" target="_blank">Calder´s Updates</a></span>:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>The model predicts a shocking loss of life from air pollution. As reported last week by Peter Shawn Taylor in Canada’s Financial Post, McKitrick put 1960s levels of air pollution into the model and found that the deaths it attributed to pollution in the Toronto area <span style="font-weight: bold;">reached more than 100% of all the people who actually died</span>. As McKitrick said, “It just doesn’t make sense.”</blockquote>
<br />
<img src="http://calderup.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/limits_standard1.jpg" border="0" alt="[Image: limits_standard1.jpg]" /><br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>[...]The Limits to Growth, 1972 [...] That may sound familiar, but four decades ago the pollution wasn’t greenhouse gases but good old-fashioned smog and poisonous wastes from industry and agriculture.<br />
<br />
[...]<br />
<br />
<div style="text-align: center;">A trend is a trend is a trend<br />
<br />
But when and how does it bend?<br />
<br />
Does it rise to the sky,<br />
<br />
Or lie down and die,<br />
<br />
Or asymptote on to the end?<br />
<br />
(Chris Freeman)<br />
</div></blockquote>
<br />
From <a href="http://opinion.financialpost.com/2010/06/15/junk-science-week-the-missing-smog-dead/" target="_blank">Finantial Post´s link </a>in Calder´s:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite>The invisibility of the smog death toll, and the debate over the clinical mechanisms by which pollution might affect human health, put even greater focus on the reliability of the computer models behind all these numbers. To what extent can the models be trusted?<br />
<br />
Epidemiological modelling efforts are entirely inferred: Evidence on deaths and hospitalizations are fed into a computer, along with air pollution and other possible factors. Then statistical correlations are estimated.<br />
<br />
In the case of the CMA’s model, the selected pollutants are ozone and particulate matter of 2.5 microns. Boadway explains these two factors were chosen among all other possibilities <span style="font-weight: bold;">on the recommendation of an international panel of experts</span>. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Choosing your explanatory variables ahead of time and then looking for significant links is called model selection.</span><br />
<br />
McKitrick uses a different approach, something called Bayesian model averaging. Such a method is necessary, he claims, due to the sheer number of possible variables involved. <span style="font-weight: bold;">“There are literally tens of billions of potential combinations,”</span> McKitrick observes. Besides numerous different forms of air pollution, researchers may also include time-delayed measurements, as well as independent factors such as weather, lifestyle and income. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Allowing authors to arbitrarily pick the variables through model selection creates uncertainty and opens the potential for cherry-picking the most desirable results, he says</span>.</blockquote>
<br />
<span style="color: #0000CD;">It looks that McKitrick has found another hockey stick...</span><br />
<br />
(This is to continue the thread "Population control" in <a href="http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-744.html" target="_blank">http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/fo...d-744.html</a> )]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Harrabin on Climategate - Audio Clip]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-804.html</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 11:32:02 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Has Harrabin finally started to report in a less baised way?<br />
<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8795000/8795643.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/new...795643.stm</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Has Harrabin finally started to report in a less baised way?<br />
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<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8795000/8795643.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/new...795643.stm</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Climategate after the Russell Review]]></title>
			<link>http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/forums/thread-799.html</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 11:20:41 -0500</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[For those who can get to London:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;">Discussing the 'Climategate' Affair and the CRU Inquiries</span><br />
 <br />
Speakers<br />
* Stephen McIntyre (Canada)<br />
* David Holland (UK)<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Tuesday, 13 July 2010, 19:00 - 21:00<br />
Institute of Materials, Minerals and Mining, 1 Carlton House Terrace, London SW1Y 5DB</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Seats are available on a first-come, first-served basis.<br />
To register, please e-mail: info@thegwpf.org or phone 207 9306856</span><br />
<br />
On 7 July, Sir Muir Russell will publish the findings of the Independent Climate Change Email Review into what is commonly known as the 'Climategate' Affair. The Global Warming Policy Foundation is holding a public meeting to assess the procedures, conclusions and implications of the Review and the lessons of Climategate.<br />
<br />
Stephen McIntyre and David Holland are internationally recognised critics of the flawed expert advisory process that governments continue to rely on. Both are the subject of frequent references in the 'Climategate' emails (McIntyre is mentioned over 100 times) and both contributed written submissions of evidence to the Muir Russell inquiry. According to the BBC, McIntyre "arguably knows more about CRU science than anyone outside the unit - but none of the CRU inquiries has contacted him for input."<br />
The meeting will be chaired by Dr Benny Peiser, director of the Global Warming Policy Foundation.<br />
<br />
About the Speakers:<br />
<br />
Stephen McIntyre - <br />
Stephen McIntyre, a Canadian citizen, is a mathematical statistician and the most prominent critic of the so-called Hockey Stick graph. Since becoming involved with climate change issues some years ago, he has become a leading and internationally recognised critic first, of the handling of data and the treatment of evidence by prominent and influential climate scientists, and second, of flawed IPCC procedures. Besides his numerous publications, he has made a major contribution to the debate through his prizewinning blog, ClimateAudit.<br />
<br />
David Holland - <br />
David Holland is a retired engineer. He was a co-author of a leading critique of the Stern Review, and more recently has published a far-reaching criticism of IPCC methods and procedures.</blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[For those who can get to London:<br />
<br />
<blockquote><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;">Discussing the 'Climategate' Affair and the CRU Inquiries</span><br />
 <br />
Speakers<br />
* Stephen McIntyre (Canada)<br />
* David Holland (UK)<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Tuesday, 13 July 2010, 19:00 - 21:00<br />
Institute of Materials, Minerals and Mining, 1 Carlton House Terrace, London SW1Y 5DB</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Seats are available on a first-come, first-served basis.<br />
To register, please e-mail: info@thegwpf.org or phone 207 9306856</span><br />
<br />
On 7 July, Sir Muir Russell will publish the findings of the Independent Climate Change Email Review into what is commonly known as the 'Climategate' Affair. The Global Warming Policy Foundation is holding a public meeting to assess the procedures, conclusions and implications of the Review and the lessons of Climategate.<br />
<br />
Stephen McIntyre and David Holland are internationally recognised critics of the flawed expert advisory process that governments continue to rely on. Both are the subject of frequent references in the 'Climategate' emails (McIntyre is mentioned over 100 times) and both contributed written submissions of evidence to the Muir Russell inquiry. According to the BBC, McIntyre "arguably knows more about CRU science than anyone outside the unit - but none of the CRU inquiries has contacted him for input."<br />
The meeting will be chaired by Dr Benny Peiser, director of the Global Warming Policy Foundation.<br />
<br />
About the Speakers:<br />
<br />
Stephen McIntyre - <br />
Stephen McIntyre, a Canadian citizen, is a mathematical statistician and the most prominent critic of the so-called Hockey Stick graph. Since becoming involved with climate change issues some years ago, he has become a leading and internationally recognised critic first, of the handling of data and the treatment of evidence by prominent and influential climate scientists, and second, of flawed IPCC procedures. Besides his numerous publications, he has made a major contribution to the debate through his prizewinning blog, ClimateAudit.<br />
<br />
David Holland - <br />
David Holland is a retired engineer. He was a co-author of a leading critique of the Stern Review, and more recently has published a far-reaching criticism of IPCC methods and procedures.</blockquote>
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