Hi all,
After watching the 3 very interesting videos posted by Derek, I thought that it might be timely to add a little further information after listening to what Robert Welch said regarding the United Nations. He clearly indicated that he was no fan of the United Nations and wanted no connection with them.
I was going to write a long winded (boring) introduction but decided not to in favour of posting some links regarding the United Nations and their possible motives.
I would like to ask what people here think the UN's motives are?

http://ppjg.me/2012/03/14/agenda-21-on-steroids/
The above link references the UN document below
http://www.uncsd2012.org/rio20/content/d...1-rev3.pdf

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/42555

http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/
http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/about-us.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/u...neigh.html

http://green-agenda.com/agenda21.html

http://www.newswithviews.com/Veon/joan19.htm

http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/index.shtml - The UN site

http://users.whsmithnet.co.uk/ispalin/a21/watsa21.htm - what is UN agenda 21

The United nations is unelected and privately funded.
Structurally it is all encompassing covering all aspects of industry, commerce and development including Health and the Environment.

Using the false premise of AGW as one of its principle arguments, it drives government policies globally some of which have been disseminated already. Most have heard of sustainability and sustainable development.

Global Governance is the motive. Also the structure of the UN puts so much power into little tinpot despots they go ape. Power corrupts, especially if it gives access to unlimited aid funds.
Do a search on the name Maurice Strong. That is one scary guy.

And..
A UN Handbook for World Domination: Agenda 21

(05-06-2012 11:15 PM)Richard111 Wrote:  Global Governance is the motive. Also the structure of the UN puts so much power into little tinpot despots they go ape. Power corrupts, especially if it gives access to unlimited aid funds.
Do a search on the name Maurice Strong. That is one scary guy.

And..
A UN Handbook for World Domination: Agenda 21

Thanks for the reply & link Richard111.
m strong - very slippery !
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php...oardrooms/
http://www.afn.org/~govern/strong.html - International man of mystery: who is Maurice Strong?

Lord Christopher Monckton on UN Agenda 21

On March 18, 2012 Lord Christopher Monckton spoke to supporters of the International Free Press Society - Canada at Windermere Manor in London, Ontario. Topics of his speech included the United Nations, environmentalism, science, reason, Agenda 21, Marxism, Islam, and abortion as a major reason for the eventual downfall of the West.

Its fortunate that Lord Monckton has substantial popularity that might hopefully raise awareness of such issues.

Whilst enjoying the Monckton presentation, which so far is up to his usual very high standards.
I thought it might be useful in regards of the UN reposting here what I recently posted on my facebook page.

ie,
2) Open question to my facebook friends. Are the 3 Left Behind films, or series of books, something worth watching or reading?
ie, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/​Left_Behind_(series)
I have to admit the devil as the head of the UN is quite realistic.....LOL.
End of reposting.

I am not religius as such, but the above series does seem to give an interesting view of the UN. In as far as I have quickly scanned it over to date.

I hadn't heard of the "left behind" series of films before! Thanks for the link Derek.
I have no particular religious beliefs as such either, but have from time to time tried to consider the place of organised religion in the current state of world affairs.
Not too long ago I watched a documentary that mentioned the knights templar and their involvement in trading and banking. Venice was the leading commercial centre of the world for some time & commercial/maritime/ecclesiastical law sprang from Rome and has dominated trade/commercial law the west ever since.
Its also interesting that World leaders from time to time seek an audience with the pope.
Although I have juxtaposed the above without much thought I would definitely consider that there is at least some religious connection with world affairs though I have nothing that I could offer as proof, it being merely speculation!
In view of that though, what I would find interesting is where people like Tim LaHaye gained their information - before he put a spin on these things, that is notwithstanding the devil as the head of the UN - lol


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind_%28series%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_LaHaye#...nspiracies

Keeping the country short of water is now government – and EU – policy

Christopher Booker speaks out. In the letters page of the same paper one David Nussbaum, Chief Executive, WWF-UK Godalming, Surrey, writes;

Our founder Max Nicholson said: "WWF is not just about saving whales and tigers and rainforests, and preventing pollution and waste, but... the future conduct, welfare and happiness and indeed survival of of mankind on this planet."

(my bold)Well, that is clear enough. Discuss.

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexU...FIN:EN:PDF
more mentioned here - UN > EU driving gov agenda!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17622837

Quote:Our founder Max Nicholson said: "WWF is not just about saving whales and tigers and rainforests, and preventing pollution and waste, but... the future conduct, welfare and happiness and indeed survival of of mankind on this planet."

http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2012/04/1...oil-money/

http://toryaardvark.com/2012/02/09/frien...-agw-scam/

WWF founded on oil money.

http://omanuel.wordpress.com/about/#comment-70

Some interesting thoughts there relevant to this discussion (I think).

Quote:All Life on earth - including the lives of world leaders themselves might be destroyed unless they could identify a common enemy to

• unite nations
• end nationalism
• abolish nuclear weapons
  

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10640850/Climategate_Roots.pdf

The zoologist, Dr. Desmond Morris, also wrote much the same material in the Introduction his 1967 book, “The Naked Ape”:
“highly successful, . . . intensely vocal, acutely exploratory. . . . spends a great deal of time examining his higher motives and an equal amount of time studiously ignoring his fundamental ones. . . . in acquiring lofty new motives, he has lost none of the early old ones. . . . his old impulses have been with him for millions of years, his new ones only a few thousand . . . . no hope of quickly shrugging off the accumulated genetic legacy of his whole evolutionary past. . . . would be a far less worried and more fulfilled animal if only he would face up to this fact.” (p. 9)
http://evolbiol.ru/large_files/naked_ape.pdf
I deeply regret that it took this naked ape so long to connect the dots and decipher the web of deceit that naked ape leaders started to weave ~66.7 years ago to protect themselves and the world from “nuclear fire” and the threat of nuclear annihilation.
CONCLUSION: World leaders who betrayed us are no more and no less flawed than the rest of us naked apes. To escape the “ego cage” and become part of the benevolent universe is the goal of life.

The suppressed findings of Professor Paul Kazuo Kuroda on nuclear fire - http://omanuel.wordpress.com/about/ - thanks for the link Richard111.

Dev... But how could we scape from such "Ego Cage"?

Hi Nasif - I would guess that education might be the key - and to admit that we dont have all the answers!

It does however seem to be those in power who become corrupted - disseminate their corruption downwards into the scheme of things (please pardon my vague description) hence why so many involved in climate science are manipulated towards political ends.
I remember reading somewhere years ago that MMGW is a political problem not a CO2 problem and I think that pretty much still holds. Get rid of politics and the problem would soon clear.
I use the term politics loosely and do include the military, industrial, economic and religious sectors.

I see a lot of links in the thread that covers the unwanted behavior of the U.N. But it would be hard to find later unless......,

Does anyone want to make a thread compilation of the links? To add more as time rolls along.

It would be posted in the Climategate forum area:

LINK

Anyone interested?

(05-19-2012 08:58 PM)Sunsettommy Wrote:  I see a lot of links in the thread that covers the unwanted behavior of the U.N. But it would be hard to find later unless......,

Does anyone want to make a thread compilation of the links? To add more as time rolls along.

It would be posted in the Climategate forum area:

LINK

Anyone interested?

Hi Sunsettommy - Id be happy to compile links of this thread. I have adobe pdf software so should not be a problem.

(05-20-2012 10:20 AM)dev Wrote:  

(05-19-2012 08:58 PM)Sunsettommy Wrote:  I see a lot of links in the thread that covers the unwanted behavior of the U.N. But it would be hard to find later unless......,

Does anyone want to make a thread compilation of the links? To add more as time rolls along.

It would be posted in the Climategate forum area:

LINK

Anyone interested?

Hi Sunsettommy - Id be happy to compile links of this thread. I have adobe pdf software so should not be a problem.

Here is the subforum in Climategate forum section.

You are Forum Moderator for that subforum.

Congrats Dev.

Some may have seen my facebook post today, I will repeat it here.

The Face of Genocidal Eco-Fascism
http://azizonomics.com/2012/05/18/the-fa...o-fascism/
" This is Finnish writer Pentti Linkola — a man who demands that the human population reduce its size to around 500 million and abandon modern technology and the pursuit of economic growth — in his own words. "
Link to Pentti's own words.
http://www.penttilinkola.com/pentti_linkola/ecofascism/

Derek says - I am a green, I always have been, I always will be, BUT the political greens of the present are anti human eco-facists. THAT I abhor, so should we all, and so should we all leave them, the politically correct, and eco-facist greens, in absolutely no doubt whatsoever of that fact.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentti_Linkola
He advocates eugenics, genocide,and abortion as possible means to combat overpopulation. He describes the Stalinist and Nazi massacres, as "massive thinning operations," but which have "not overturned our ethical norms".[8] He has suggested that big cities should be attacked by "some trans-national body like the UN", with nuclear weapons or with "bacteriological and chemical attacks".[9] Linkola has described humans as a cancer of the earth, and he desires that the human population "be reduced to about ten percent of what it is now."[10][11][12]

(05-20-2012 01:24 PM)Derek Wrote:  Congrats Dev.

Some may have seen my facebook post today, I will repeat it here.

The Face of Genocidal Eco-Fascism
http://azizonomics.com/2012/​05/18/​the-...-fasci​sm/
" This is Finnish writer Pentti Linkola — a man who demands that the human population reduce its size to around 500 million and abandon modern technology and the pursuit of economic growth — in his own words. "
Link to Pentti's own words.
http://www.penttilinkola.com/​pentti_lin...cofascism/

Derek says - I am a green, I always have been, I always will be, BUT the political greens of the present are anti human eco-facists. THAT I abhor, so should we all, and so should we all leave them, the politically correct, and eco-facist greens, in absolutely no doubt whatsoever of that fact.


http://en.wikipedia.org/​wiki/​Pentti_Li...ite_note-8
He advocates eugenics, genocide,and abortion as possible means to combat overpopulation. He describes the Stalinist and Nazi massacres, as "massive thinning operations," but which have "not overturned our ethical norms".[8] He has suggested that big cities should be attacked by "some trans-national body like the UN", with nuclear weapons or with "bacteriological and chemical attacks".[9] Linkola has described humans as a cancer of the earth, and he desires that the human population "be reduced to about ten percent of what it is now."[10][11][12]

None of your links are working.

Funny, they were working yesterday on facebook.
Maybe it is a copy and pasting issue on facebook. I will check and correct later.
Links are now fixed. I will be more careful in copy and pasting from facebook in future, my apols to all.

Effective World Government Will Be Needed to Stave Off Climate Catastrophe
By Gary Stix | March 17, 2012

Link found at WUWT.