P/4 - Why it is THE issue that destroys GH and AGW.

[Climate Realist]

(06-27-2011 07:17 PM)Richard T. Fowler Wrote:  -snip-

I am now leaving this thread, and I hope that readers can look past the side issues to see the core lesson of the thread, which is that we clearly all agree on the meaning of P/4 (i.e., that it can mean mean either an average over time, OR an average over the surface of the earth AT A POINT IN TIME) and on the necessity of creating a nonuniform distribution of intensity over the entire Earth surface, in order to produce even somewhat believable numbers in any model -- whether or not that model has a "greenhouse effect" built into it.

RTF

Yes, that makes perfect sense to me, and I still don't follow Derek's reasoning for why there is a problem with P/4. It just seems good scientific common sense to me.

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BTW, I am staying out of the squabble!