Do Global Energy budgets make sense. ???

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(03-23-2010 11:04 AM)Terry Oldberg Wrote:  Derek:

The problem of estimating temperatures at Earth's surface falls within the field of engineering that is called "heat transfer." I have taken many courses in heat transfer and have applied what I've learned in my work.

Recently, I've studied the use of the language of heat transfer by believers in UCAR's "greenhouse effect." I've found that believers confuse the concepts of "heat," "work" and "internal energy" by lumping them under the general category of "energy." Also, they confuse the concepts of a "heat flow" and a "radiation intensity" by lumping them under the general category of a "heat flow." Both types of confusion are evident in Kiehl-Trenberth diagrams that are presented at UCAR's Web site and in the IPCC's 2007 report. That this confusion is evident in the thinking of the people of UCAR and of the IPCC suggests an inability of these organizations to solve the heat transfer problem which they are supposed to have solved.

I have always been confused by that K/T diagram.It never adds up logically and that is why I have never been accepting it.

I have yet to see any such diagram to make full sense in it's presentation and wonder if that is because it is not understood well enough by anyone?

Right now I am having another vertigo spell that has grounded me from work today,but reading such diagrams almost makes my head spin just as badly.