Do Global Energy budgets make sense. ???

[Derek]

(03-23-2010 11:04 AM)Terry Oldberg Wrote:  Derek:

The problem of estimating temperatures at Earth's surface falls within the field of engineering that is called "heat transfer."
I have taken many courses in heat transfer and have applied what I've learned in my work.

Recently, I've studied the use of the language of heat transfer by believers in UCAR's "greenhouse effect." I've found that believers confuse the concepts of "heat," "work" and "internal energy" by lumping them under the general category of "energy." Also, they confuse the concepts of a "heat flow" and a "radiation intensity" by lumping them under the general category of a "heat flow." Both types of confusion are evident in Kiehl-Trenberth diagrams that are presented at UCAR's Web site and in the IPCC's 2007 report. That this confusion is evident in the thinking of the people of UCAR and of the IPCC suggests an inability of these organizations to solve the heat transfer problem which they are supposed to have solved.

Thank you Terry again for a further explanation.
I (think I) have sort of touched upon what you mention in the piece,
at least partially by including your quotes from WUWT.
I have not grasped sufficiently well yet what you point to,
to be able to explain it in my own terms and know it is correct, or at least worded correctly.
I do not doubt the basic nature of the points you raise and their significance,
but I do think such would be a benefit to the piece as it would directly connect the IPCC to the budgets major issues / misrepresentations / uselessness.

I may try to put together a paragraph to insert into the piece at an appropriate point,
if I do I'll post it here first to ask if it is correctly thought through, and worded, before inserting it into the piece.

SST - Get well soon.