Do Global Energy budgets make sense. ???

[Derek]

Firstly thank you for not pointing out I did not mention that rain could transport some heat down, or rather less cold,
down through the atmosphere (from the top of the clouds). That is an excellant point you made very well. It is a large factor by any measure / view.

Also I don't know if your aware Richard111, but all over the place now (ie, air vent, WUWT, Jo Nova, etc, etc.)
discussions are trying to be quelled by the accepted physics side of things.
Whether consensus scientist or mainstream skeptic they are all at it.
(Jo Nova attempted to do it to me by private email - which was at least polite of her)

The more we probe these subject areas, in our " laymen cavemen " sort of way, as SST amusingly puts it,
the more the discussions seem to gain momentum towards our seemingly ever better understanding view of things.
We admit to not actually understanding, but are continuing to discover what is actually already known, but
has seemingly been conveniently disregarded by modern climate science and mainstream skeptics alike...
I believe "we" are now part of what is termed " illegitimate scepticism! ", as used by some "mainstream skeptics" all of a sudden...
illegitimate skepticism -

I am of the certain opinion that many of those that profess and preach their understanding of the settled science AND CO2 physics
have not got a clue about what they speak of (examples abound Ferdy for example).
I think we are genuinely ahead of many of them, in some respects at least.

You wait and see, someone will put forward my idea about the oceans transporting heat from
the day side to the night siide of the water planet Earth constantly and call it their own idea.
- I also think I know who and when as well.