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Do Global Energy budgets make sense. ???
06-30-2010, 07:19 AM
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RE: Do Global Energy budgets make sense. ???
A further thought on "energy budget" diagrams, in particular the Kiehl-Trenberth version. It shows 333 W/sq.m "back radiation" from GHGs. All of that radiation is shown as absorbed. Where is the albedo effect - some must be reflected? Albedo varies with radiation wavelength for different surface types, but an average albedo for LW infrared is similar to that for visible light. I believe (I've got a link somewhere) it's slightly higher, i.e. more is reflected. This one omission on its own (it can't be ignored or discounted) totally invalidates the energy budget figures.

Ernest Rutherford: "If your experiment needs statistics, you ought to have done a better experiment."
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RE: Do IR budgets make sense. ??? - Derek - 03-17-2010, 02:58 AM
RE: Do IR budgets make sense. ??? - Derek - 03-17-2010, 03:16 PM
RE: Do IR budgets make sense. ??? - Derek - 03-17-2010, 08:07 AM
RE: Do IR budgets make sense. ??? - Derek - 03-18-2010, 04:27 AM
RE: Do IR budgets make sense. ??? - Derek - 03-22-2010, 11:46 PM
RE: Do IR budgets make sense. ??? - Derek - 03-23-2010, 01:16 PM
RE: Do IR budgets make sense. ??? - Derek - 03-24-2010, 03:15 AM
RE: Do IR budgets make sense. ??? - Derek - 03-25-2010, 01:52 PM
RE: Do IR budgets make sense. ??? - Derek - 03-25-2010, 03:46 PM
RE: Do IR budgets make sense. ??? - Derek - 03-26-2010, 01:08 AM
RE: Do IR budgets make sense. ??? - Derek - 03-26-2010, 02:28 AM
RE: Do IR budgets make sense. ??? - Derek - 03-26-2010, 05:23 AM
RE: Do Global Energy budgets make sense. ??? - MostlyHarmless - 06-30-2010 07:19 AM

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