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Nitrous Oxide; the latest global pollutant!!!
#1
This is unbelievable! Have a read of this:
Nitrogen pollution 'costs EU up to £280bn a year'

By Roger Harrabin
Environment analyst

Quote:Nitrogen pollution from farms, vehicles, industry and waste treatment is costing the EU up to £280bn (320bn euros) a year, a report says.

The study by 200 European experts says reactive nitrogen contributes to air pollution, fuels climate change and is estimated to shorten the life of the average resident by six months.

Gosh! 200 EXPERTS!! We are seriously doomed.
Have a look at what Nitrous Oxide is and be carefull not to kill yourself feeding it into your motorbike engine. Wink
Environmentalism is based on lies and the lies reflect an agenda that regards humanity as the enemy of the Earth. - Alan Caruba
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#2
Not again, we have had this one before, I am sure I remember it.

What was it Einstein said about a "consensus" of 200 scientists,
or one with proof...

BTW - Interesting image of "major long-lived" greenhouse gases....
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entr...trends.png
Peculiar phrase, presumably to remove water vapour from the "equation"..
AND,
Compare the same image from the older version of the page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Major_...trends.png

Wow, it had an atmospheric concentration of, hold on to your hats,
318 parts per billion in 2002.
Which was, according to the old page,
323 parts per billion.....

Methane was apparently 1760 ppb, in 2002.

Did Lisa Jackson put this page together?

Then there is the rather confusing statements that,
" Nitrous oxide also attacks ozone in the stratosphere, aggravating the excess amount of UV light striking the Earth's surface in recent decades "
and,
" Nitrous oxide is the main natural regulator of stratospheric ozone. "

I thought ozone was a (supposed) greenhouse gas........
" However, the most widely accepted scientific assessments relating to climate change
(e.g. the IPCC Third Assessment Report[21]) suggest that
the radiative forcing of tropospheric ozone is about 25% that of carbon dioxide.
"
and,
" This means on a per-molecule basis, ozone in the troposphere has
a radiative forcing effect roughly 1,000 times as strong as carbon dioxide.
"
and,
" Because of its short-lived nature, tropospheric ozone does not have strong global effects, but
has very strong radiative forcing effects on regional scales.
In fact, there are regions of the world where tropospheric ozone
has a radiative forcing up to 150% of carbon dioxide.[23]
"

All completely dwarfed into insignificance by water vapour of course,
in an open and mixed system,
that we call planet earth's atmosphere...
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#3
Lightning is a major source of nitrogen oxides and they have no idea how much is produced that way but estimate the amount per flash as 7kg:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/200...100022.htm
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news...ution.html

Quote:About 77 million lightning bolts annually strike the U.S.

7kg * 77,000,000 = 539,000,000kg

Global Warming Potential = 298 (CO2 = 1)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_potential

Equivalent CO2 = 539,000,000 * 1000 * 298 = 160,622,000,000,000g CO2

This is 161Tg CO2, half the quantity (318Tg CO2) estimated for all sources in the USA in 2008:
http://www.epa.gov/nitrousoxide/sources.html

Actually, the article states 7kg of nitrogen is converted, not that 7kg of NOx was produced by each lightning bolt. Thus at least 322Tg CO2 equivalent is formed.

Suddenly the tables seem to have turned.
"Correlation is NOT Causation"
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#4
Excellent post Q_C. From your first link:

Quote:According to a new paper by Ott and Pickering in the Journal of Geophysical Research, each flash of lightning on average in the several mid-latitude and subtropical thunderstorms studied turned 7 kilograms (15.4 pounds) of nitrogen into chemically reactive NOx. "In other words, you could drive a new car across the United States more than 50 times and still produce less than half as much NOx as an average lightning flash," Ott estimated. The results were published July.

My bold. Maybe we need to legislate against lightning flashes or at least charge countries like Rwanda for polluting the global climate and putting us northern countries at risk. Rolleyes

Quick edit: if that was 7kg of N2 and it combines with equivalent oxygen then product will be more than 7kg?

Tcha! I'm no chemist! I think that will be a single nitrogen atom combined with a single oxygen atom so 14 + 16 = 30 as opposed to N2 = 28.
I suppose that qualifies as more. Dunno about all the left over bits and pieces.
Environmentalism is based on lies and the lies reflect an agenda that regards humanity as the enemy of the Earth. - Alan Caruba
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#5
Nature produces far more of the "offending" molecules,than we do.A massive amount more.

But since nature does it naturally,it is ok.But when we produce a feeble amount of the same stuff,it is very bad.Mankind somehow imperils the environment,with that feeble amount more added,to the massive amount of what Nature already has added.

That is the environmentalist/political nonsense we are having to deal with.



It is our attitude toward free thought and free expression that will determine our fate. There must be no limit on the range of temperate discussion, no limits on thought. No subject must be taboo. No censor must preside at our assemblies.

–William O. Douglas, U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1952
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#6
Quote:Nitrous Oxide; the latest global pollutant!!!

Whoa!

This is no laughing matter!

How's that song go? -

"I started a pollutant

which started the whole world laughing."

I know you think you understand what you thought I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!


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