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Alistair's comment
06-30-2011, 04:35 PM
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Alistair's comment
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Quote:Jun 29, 2011 at 10:34 AM

King jumped on the CAGW bandwagon as did many other scientists. After all, the apocalyptic paper by GISS in 1988, and the submission by Hansen to Congress, were very persuasive. However, King clearly did not do his job as a scientist by analysing the subject in detail at the time.

This was proved in Moscow in 2004 when he reportedly claimed before Russian climatologists that the Kilimanjaro glacier was melting. They laughed him out of the room after the top guy told him their satellites showed it was colder but dryer because of deforestation, and the glacier was subliming.

What King and most other scientists did not know was at that time, insiders in NASA knew from their own research that the idea of 'back radiation', hence high feedback, was a mathematical mistake from 1922 and the cloud part of 'global dimming' was an artefact of incorrect optical physics by Sagan introduced to the subject by Hansen and Lacis, the top NASA people.

Instead of admitting the wheels had come off the CAGW wagon, NASA 'persuaded' physicist Ferenc Miskolczi, who had discovered the 1922 error, to leave and published a fake 'surface reflection' argument to purport the optical physics was fine. Hence AR4 was known to be wrong when published.

It took the UEA whistle-blower to derail Copenhagen. What we have now are the last desperate attempts at self justification by those who uncritically lashed themselves to the CAGW mast. In reality, the 'missing heat' was solar and fast heating at the end of an ice age which starts 1300 years before any atmosphere temperature rise, is probably through reduction of cloud albedo, not CO2-GW which could be very small, even net zero.

It is our attitude toward free thought and free expression that will determine our fate. There must be no limit on the range of temperate discussion, no limits on thought. No subject must be taboo. No censor must preside at our assemblies.

–William O. Douglas, U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1952
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07-01-2011, 01:27 PM
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RE: Alistair's comment
VERY true!

The sun and clouds (and the oceans) rule the climate, NOT CO2. Good post SST!
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