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Climate Experts Spencer and Lindzen Lash Out as Pet Theory is Trashed
02-23-2012, 12:16 PM
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Climate Experts Spencer and Lindzen Lash Out as Pet Theory is Trashed
John O' Sullivan

February 23,2012

EXCERPT:

Two irate climatologists launch into a flurry of name-calling and innuendo as their beloved greenhouse gas theory collapses threatening to take their careers with it.

Dr. Roy Spencer this week followed the lead of Dr. Richard Lindzen in spitting insults after fellow skeptic scientists debunked the greenhouse gas effect (GHE). Lindzen confined his insults to private emails. But Spencer openly blogged his personal attack after reading how cutting-edge scientific research by specialists in astrophysicists, space engineering and mathematics had exposed Spencer’s weak grasp of physics; something particularly identified by NASA’s former Apollo Mission engineer, Dr. Pierre R. Latour.

Highly credentialed scientists, among them Latour, Professor Nasif Nahle, Dr. Matthias Kleespies and other leading experts in their respective fields have been remorsefully debunking the GHE in a series of articles and peer-reviewed papers. The GHE is the cornerstone of the man-made global warming hysteria.

LINK

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02-23-2012, 12:19 PM
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RE: Climate Experts Spencer and Lindzen Lash Out as Pet Theory is Trashed
From the link:

Quote:Space scientists know radiation does not have a temperature. It can only induce a temperature when it encounters matter that is susceptible to the radiation it receives.

and,

Quote:What the Spencers and Lindzens of this world need to understand is that the radiation that is found in space might indicate a temperature, but radiation is NOT space.Radiation is energy, and indeed it can have what space scientists call a Black Body temperature spectrum (this is where the confusion would come in). But ponderable temperature is actually only created when that energy gets absorbed into an object/matter and the molecules/atoms start vibrating/bouncing around.

I amazed that some scientists confuse the difference so badly.

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02-23-2012, 04:25 PM
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From NASA website is this amusing contradiction.It is not a severe one but enough to make me wonder what in the hell this Doctorate holder was thinking:

Quote:Temperature of the "Void"

Is it correct that objects in deep space (not heated by an external source, such as the Sun) have a temperature near absolute zero - but the void itself has NO temperature?

Objects in the void will eventually come to the equilibrium temperature of the cosmic microwave background, which is 2.7 Kelvin (2.7 degrees above absolute zero). The cosmic background is a sea of photons (light) that are the remnants of the Big Bang, which has cooled down to 2.7 Kelvin over 15-20 billion years. The comment that the void itself has no temperature comes from the fact that temperature is usually defined with the random motions of matter, and if there is no matter, there is no temperature. But I (and many others) equate the cosmic background with the 'void' having an effective temperature of 2.7 Kelvin, even if there is no matter.

Dr. Eric Christian

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LOL,

He was doing good until that last paragraph.Then it gets muddled.

That was #2 in the link.Want to try reading the mess at #5 The Cold of Space ?

Dodgy

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02-25-2012, 09:38 AM
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From this link are comments that make me wonder why they miss the freaking obvious.From the Slaying the Sky Dragon website:

Roy Spencer’s Fatal Error: Believing the Vacuum of Space has a Temperature

The sarcastic comment:

Quote:Really!? Space no longer has any temperature? When did this occur? I thought you had to have some background in science to produce a paper. Obviously not!

The confused comment:

Quote:I have heard of heat penetrating mass increasing the temperature of the mass but "cold" (as in cold energy) penetrating a solid mass? I saw that "Far Side" cartoon! Thermodynamics 101. Heat is energy. Cold is not.

The stupid comment:

Quote:"Astrophysicists will tell you that the vast emptiness of outer space has no temperature"

If you can find any that will, I'll be impressed. The Cosmic Microwave Background has been known since the 1960s.

The replies to them are interesting.I posted three of mine there.

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