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Derek - Smelling the coffee.
04-10-2010, 11:02 AM
Post: #161
RE: Derek - Smelling the coffee.
In all honesty I've yet to see where he disagrees with AGW,
he just seems to suggest the IPCC exagerates things a bit.
When we have questioned him, well, he hasn't done too well in all honesty.

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
(and hence clamorous to be led to safety)
by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken.

The hobgoblins have to be imaginary so that
"they" can offer their solutions, not THE solutions.
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04-10-2010, 11:24 AM
Post: #162
RE: Derek - Smelling the coffee.
(04-10-2010 11:02 AM)Derek Wrote:  In all honesty I've yet to see where he disagrees with AGW,
he just seems to suggest the IPCC exagerates things a bit.
When we have questioned him, well, he hasn't done too well in all honesty.

Then he has changed,because he once told me that he did not accept the AGW hypothesis,when he was trying to convince me not to make a big deal about the MLO stuff.

He is admittedly a slippery debater,who seems oblivious that he posts wandering answers to the same questions.

Big Grin

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04-10-2010, 11:39 AM
Post: #163
RE: Derek - Smelling the coffee.
How or why did he say he does not accept the AGW hypothesis. ?
ie, did he give reasons. I've never him give any, bar the IPCC exaggerates some figures a bit.
We have seen his depth of knowledge before on several related areas..

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
(and hence clamorous to be led to safety)
by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken.

The hobgoblins have to be imaginary so that
"they" can offer their solutions, not THE solutions.
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04-10-2010, 11:51 AM
Post: #164
RE: Derek - Smelling the coffee.
(04-10-2010 11:39 AM)Derek Wrote:  How or why did he say he does not accept the AGW hypothesis. ?
ie, did he give reasons. I've never him give any, bar the IPCC exaggerates some figures a bit.
We have seen his depth of knowledge before on several related areas..

During the discussions in the old forum,he sent me an e-mail about it.

He is adamant in what he believes,that I have noticed very few people even remotely accept.That is why he appears to be an outsider.

Notice how rarely he discusses anything outside of his pet idea's about the MLO data and the amount of incoming and outgoing CO2 cycles and man's influence in all this?

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04-18-2012, 02:00 AM
Post: #165
RE: Derek - Smelling the coffee.
I am wondering should this thread be moved to my open sub forum under climate science news?
Maybe not, because all the comments here were made in private.

I could start a new thread and copy and paste some of (only) my comments as I think it is time to show openly how much money, whose money, and how it is invested and controlled in and by the politically correct monied green agenda.
For heavens sake, Robert Napier at the helm of the Met Office. Is it even possible to have a bigger vested interest in the science that the Met Office uses to forecast with????
55 Billion is a VERY LARGE NUMBER.....

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
(and hence clamorous to be led to safety)
by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken.

The hobgoblins have to be imaginary so that
"they" can offer their solutions, not THE solutions.
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04-18-2012, 06:41 AM
Post: #166
RE: Derek - Smelling the coffee.
(04-18-2012 02:00 AM)Derek Wrote:  I am wondering should this thread be moved to my open sub forum under climate science news?
Maybe not, because all the comments here were made in private.

I could start a new thread and copy and paste some of (only) my comments as I think it is time to show openly how much money, whose money, and how it is invested and controlled in and by the politically correct monied green agenda.
For heavens sake, Robert Napier at the helm of the Met Office. Is it even possible to have a bigger vested interest in the science that the Met Office uses to forecast with????
55 Billion is a VERY LARGE NUMBER.....

We can move this from private discussion but it would be wise to have permission from Richard111 JohnWho and anyone else except Harpospoke who is not around to make this move.Since it started as a private discussion it is only fair to ask ahead of time first.

There is at least one post I would delete after the move since it is an e-mail post to protect the privacy of the sender.There maybe a couple more to delete but I only got to page 4 of the 9 so I do not know yet what else might need to be deleted.

To do this would require making a COPY of the thread and move it to your forum area to make it possible to still have it in private discussion for preserving some postings that should never be given open exposure to the public and have future comments that can be private when needed.

If we get approval for the move I will skim to see what posts would need to be deleted right after the move to your subforum.This way we know what they are for quick removal.They will still exist in the private forum.

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04-18-2012, 07:33 AM
Post: #167
RE: Derek - Smelling the coffee.
OK, an edited copy of the thread in my subforum sounds the way to go, so the original full one is still kept privately here.

I will have to check which posts of mine I want to keep, so I would not blame anyone else for just saying "Errr, no, thank you".

I will have a look at this over the weekend. If Richard111 or JohnWho spot this please feel free to comment here.
I will pm ALL posters when I have a better idea of what is remaining in of my posts.

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
(and hence clamorous to be led to safety)
by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken.

The hobgoblins have to be imaginary so that
"they" can offer their solutions, not THE solutions.
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04-18-2012, 08:28 PM
Post: #168
RE: Derek - Smelling the coffee.
I have skimmed all the posts in the thread and so far post # 34 is the only one that MUST be deleted to keep it private as it is an e-mail quote with the senders name on it.

Maybe you Richard111 and others can post your own posts you think SHOULD be kept private.Then with approval by everyone except Harpospoke the thread will be moved and then the quick deletions of specific posts.

Meanwhile I doubt some of the private discussion members remember the password to come here.

Rolleyes

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04-19-2012, 05:27 AM
Post: #169
RE: Derek - Smelling the coffee.
I have PMed JohnWho about this.

Maybe you PM Richard111 ?

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04-19-2012, 12:09 PM
Post: #170
RE: Derek - Smelling the coffee.
I will do. He has been strangely absent over the last few days though.

No real urgency as such as I will not be rushing this. I have an experiment to do first....Big GrinBig GrinBig Grin

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
(and hence clamorous to be led to safety)
by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken.

The hobgoblins have to be imaginary so that
"they" can offer their solutions, not THE solutions.
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04-19-2012, 07:00 PM
Post: #171
RE: Derek - Smelling the coffee.
I have no problem leaving any of my posts.

I know you think you understand what you thought I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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04-19-2012, 09:33 PM
Post: #172
RE: Derek - Smelling the coffee.
THANK YOU JohnWho.

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
(and hence clamorous to be led to safety)
by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken.

The hobgoblins have to be imaginary so that
"they" can offer their solutions, not THE solutions.
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04-21-2012, 03:42 AM
Post: #173
RE: Derek - Smelling the coffee.
Derek pm'd the password to me, many thanks. I lost it with my old computer. But then I'm not very much into being private so there is no problems making my posts public as long as no one accuses me of being a scientist. Smile

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04-21-2012, 08:18 AM
Post: #174
RE: Derek - Smelling the coffee.
Ok then we have everyone's approval to make it public.

I have one post to delete after the move.Derek did you have a post or two to delete if so please provide a list of post or posts to be deleted right after the move.

When you give me the answer I can then move this thread and keep this one here in private discussions fully intact with ALL the posts.After the more I will quickly delete the few that should not be seen in the open.

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04-21-2012, 09:14 AM
Post: #175
RE: Derek - Smelling the coffee.
On second thoughts I have no posts to remove.
GO FOR IT SST. and many THANKS.
It is time this stuff was out there.

I may as well be hung by my own words...
lol

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
(and hence clamorous to be led to safety)
by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken.

The hobgoblins have to be imaginary so that
"they" can offer their solutions, not THE solutions.
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04-22-2012, 12:14 AM
Post: #176
RE: Derek - Smelling the coffee.
(04-18-2012 02:00 AM)Derek Wrote:  I am wondering should this thread be moved to my open sub forum under climate science news?
Maybe not, because all the comments here were made in private.

I could start a new thread and copy and paste some of (only) my comments as I think it is time to show openly how much money, whose money, and how it is invested and controlled in and by the politically correct monied green agenda.
For heavens sake, Robert Napier at the helm of the Met Office. Is it even possible to have a bigger vested interest in the science that the Met Office uses to forecast with????
55 Billion is a VERY LARGE NUMBER.....

Ooooops, that should of been 55 TRILLIONS.....
So large a number and amount it is unimaginable. Too big to fail, literally.
Which explains much to my mind about the present state of the climate science debates on the internet.
My view upon this I have expressed on the following thread.
We all know shooting the messenger is wrong.
Yet

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
(and hence clamorous to be led to safety)
by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken.

The hobgoblins have to be imaginary so that
"they" can offer their solutions, not THE solutions.
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