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Svante Arrhenius's second paper..
#1
Hi All,
Whilst looking around regarding something I had to visit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svante_Arrhenius

OK, so we have all heard of his paper in 1896. Often this is credited with starting off the AGW fears of present.
However this quote from the above link is interesting..

Excerpt,
" Arrhenius estimated that halving of CO2 would decrease temperatures by 4 - 5 °C (Celsius) and
a doubling of CO2 would cause a temperature rise of 5 - 6 °C[4].

In his 1906 publication, Arrhenius adjusted the value downwards to 1.6 °C
(including water vapour feedback: 2.1 °C).
"

As Wiki is a somewhat dubious source for such information, I would like to check, or be able to reference
the figures quoted by Wiki for the first and later Arrhenius papers.

The 1896 paper is referenced elsewhere as,
Arrhenius, Svante (1896). "On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air Upon the Temperature of the Ground."
Philosophical Magazine 41: 237-76.

I can not find an online pdf or copy of the original paper, does anyone know of one please.

The second paper is referenced as,
Svante Arrhenius, 1906, Die vermutliche Ursache der Klimaschwankungen, Meddelanden från K. Vetenskapsakademiens Nobelinstitut,
Vol 1 No 2, pages 1–10

Again, I can not see an online (or English) pdf or copy, does anyone know of one please.
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
(and hence clamorous to be led to safety)
by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken.

The hobgoblins have to be imaginary so that
"they" can offer their solutions, not THE solutions.
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#2
Try these links:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/13/6995/


http://www.answers.com/topic/svante-arrhenius


http://www.archive.org/details/svenskbotaniskti14sven


I got these using Google Scholar.
It is our attitude toward free thought and free expression that will determine our fate. There must be no limit on the range of temperate discussion, no limits on thought. No subject must be taboo. No censor must preside at our assemblies.

–William O. Douglas, U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1952
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#3
Hans Erren has several pages about Svante Arrhenius:

http://members.casema.nl/errenwijlens/co2/arrhweart.htm
http://members.casema.nl/errenwijlens/co...enius.html
http://members.casema.nl/errenwijlens/co2/arrhrev.htm
http://members.casema.nl/errenwijlens/co...draft2.htm
http://members.casema.nl/errenwijlens/co...index.html
http://members.casema.nl/errenwijlens/co...index.html
http://members.casema.nl/errenwijlens/co...index.html
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#4
Itscoldinhere,

All links "navigation cancelled"  Sad
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
(and hence clamorous to be led to safety)
by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken.

The hobgoblins have to be imaginary so that
"they" can offer their solutions, not THE solutions.
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#5
[quote author=Derek link=topic=201.msg1407#msg1407 date=1250799098]
All links "navigation cancelled"  Sad
[/quote]

That is odd because they ALL open fine for me.

It is our attitude toward free thought and free expression that will determine our fate. There must be no limit on the range of temperate discussion, no limits on thought. No subject must be taboo. No censor must preside at our assemblies.

–William O. Douglas, U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1952
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#6
Hmmm, maybe a server maintenance issue, I'll try them again later.
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
(and hence clamorous to be led to safety)
by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken.

The hobgoblins have to be imaginary so that
"they" can offer their solutions, not THE solutions.
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#7
[quote author=Derek link=topic=201.msg1407#msg1407 date=1250799098]
Itscoldinhere,

All links "navigation cancelled"  Sad
[/quote]

Sounds like a browser issue. Odd.
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#8
ICIH:
Are you calling Derek ODD? Wink
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#9
Hi All,
I finally have the reference for the second paper in a form I think works.
What do you think.

Svante Arrhenius, 1906, Die vermutliche Ursache der Klimaschwankungen,  Meddelanden från K. Vetenskapsakademien s Nobelinstitut,
Vol 1 No 2, pages 1–10
Extracts online  in - Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics
Version 4.0 (January 6, 2009)
Gerhard Gerlich and Ralf D. Tscheuschner
http://arxiv.org/abs/0707.1161v4
arXiv:0707.1161v4 [physics.ao-ph] (pdf pages 54 to 57) 4 Mar 2009
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
(and hence clamorous to be led to safety)
by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken.

The hobgoblins have to be imaginary so that
"they" can offer their solutions, not THE solutions.
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#10
Derek:
That is a good link even if some claim that paper proves nothing but those are the same that claim the Science Is Settled.
I think they stated the issue very well.
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#11
Thanks Mike,
I had hoped the reference was a "double whammy" as such.  ;D
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
(and hence clamorous to be led to safety)
by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken.

The hobgoblins have to be imaginary so that
"they" can offer their solutions, not THE solutions.
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