Bishop Hill’s compendium of CRU email issues

[Sunsettommy]

Watts Up With That?

11/22/2009

SELECTED EXCERPT:

Climate cuttings 33

If you are interested in more on global warming material, check out Caspar and the Jesus Paper and The Yamal Implosion, or check out the forthcoming book.

General reaction seems to be that the CRUgate emails are genuine, but with the caveat that there could be some less reliable stuff slipped in.

In the circumstances, here are some summaries of the CRUgate files. I’ll update these as and when I can. The refs are the email number.

* Phil Jones writes to University of Hull to try to stop sceptic Sonia Boehmer Christiansen using her Hull affiliation. Graham F Haughton of Hull University says its easier to push greenery there now SB-C has retired.(1256765544)
* Michael Mann discusses how to destroy a journal that has published sceptic papers.(1047388489)
* Tim Osborn discusses how data are truncated to stop an apparent cooling trend showing up in the results (0939154709). Analysis of impact here. Wow!
* Phil Jones describes the death of sceptic, John Daly, as “cheering news”.(1075403821)

LINK FOR A LOT MORE

[Sunsettommy]

I was one of the early readers of John Daly's website.Where he convincingly exposed some of the outrageous AGW baloney,including the infamous hockey stick paper.

His death was a blow to me personally and still feel bad about it after 5 years.

Dr. Jones is a despicable man for the many things he has done and I hope he gets fired for it.

[Mike Davis]

I believe thew best part is Mann's "TRICK" replacing proxy data with adjusted temperature data then when called on doing so claiming : No respectable Climate Scientist would "Splice" Temperature data onto proxy data.
He is correct in the issue because he is not a respectable scientist and the team claims that surface temperature data is the best "Proxy" data available, In other words the surface data is not actual data but represents real data due to adjustments.
There is the evidence that data is still being adjusted to provide needed support for global warming.
I would venture to guess that maybe Biffra or Osborne were the source for this leak because they have reached a dead end with trying to support bad work which was revealed by certain web sites including TAV where this data was revealed.

[Goose52]

I finally made it. Don't let the extra 2 bother you. A small price to pay for admittance. Seeing how all of this is being defended I think most if not all of these professor types will survive. In the universities it is a meter of money. If the likes of Mann brings in big grant money his administrators will look the other way. If alumni and the people giving endowments cut off contributions to the tune of more than the grant money they may toss someone under the bus. But, that would take a lot of people banding together. These universities if it means a net loss of money they are perfectly willing to keep a dishonest scientist.

[JohnWho]

Welcome back, Goose.

Oh, yeah, there's a lot of money involved here, so the real truth is of little concern.

[Sunsettommy]

The sad part in all this money stuff is that they were already being paid adequately for being a professor of an University or of a science lab funded by the government or science foundation.

They allowed additional funding opportunities to cloud their judgment and thus get themselves into the pickle they are now in.

[Sunsettommy]

(11-24-2009 08:38 PM)Goose52 Wrote:  I finally made it. Don't let the extra 2 bother you. A small price to pay for admittance. Seeing how all of this is being defended I think most if not all of these professor types will survive. In the universities it is a meter of money. If the likes of Mann brings in big grant money his administrators will look the other way. If alumni and the people giving endowments cut off contributions to the tune of more than the grant money they may toss someone under the bus. But, that would take a lot of people banding together. These universities if it means a net loss of money they are perfectly willing to keep a dishonest scientist.

Welcome back Goose,you were being missed.

[Mike Davis]

Jones actually made the claim they are judged on their work output and graded by quantity so needing to respond to queries inhibits his ability to grind out papers and students.
It should be mentioned tht the word Quality was not used in the above as he has provided evidence that that was not important. The main issue of importance was churning out results that supported the consensus so a consensus could be claimed.