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Even Monbiot says the science now needs “reanalyising”
11-24-2009, 02:02 PM
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Even Monbiot says the science now needs “reanalyising”
Herald Sun

Andrew Bolt
Tuesday, November 24, 2009

EXCERPT:

Even George Monbiot, one of the fiercest media propagandists of the warming faith, admits he should have been more sceptical and says the science now needs to be rechecked:

It’s no use pretending that this isn’t a major blow. The emails extracted by a hacker from the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia could scarcely be more damaging. I am now convinced that they are genuine, and I’m dismayed and deeply shaken by them.

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Even Monbiot is getting some of the picture...........

gargle....

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11-24-2009, 02:15 PM
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RE: Even Monbiot says the science now needs “reanalyising”
The "scales have been lifted from his eyes".

The religious phrase just seemed appropriate for some reason. Smile

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11-24-2009, 02:27 PM
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RE: Even Monbiot says the science now needs “reanalyising”
He seems to be quite upset about certain alarmist fellows,would do such a thing!

Next week he will back to his old self again and rant like the moonbat he is.

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11-24-2009, 11:10 PM
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That is what makes him the MOONBAT he is. Maybe Joe Romm will also condemn the doings of the team.
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11-25-2009, 05:24 AM
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RE: Even Monbiot says the science now needs “reanalyising”
This stuck out for me:

"I would have been a better journalist if I had investigated their claims more closely."

I would like to see more "journalists" come to this realization.
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11-25-2009, 08:06 AM (This post was last modified: 11-25-2009 08:08 AM by Mike Davis.)
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It does not matter what that one says as he will only look for the next fairy tale to promote that matches his agenda.
He would have been a better journalist if he would have not been a journalist.
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11-25-2009, 08:12 AM
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RE: Even Monbiot says the science now needs “reanalyising”
(11-24-2009 11:10 PM)Mike Davis Wrote:  That is what makes him the MOONBAT he is. Maybe Joe Romm will also condemn the doings of the team.

Joe Romm is a member of THIS forum,I wonder if he will come and make a confessional post?

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11-25-2009, 08:17 AM
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(11-25-2009 05:24 AM)HarpoSpoke Wrote:  This stuck out for me:

"I would have been a better journalist if I had investigated their claims more closely."

I would like to see more "journalists" come to this realization.

I would like to know if it is a permanent change of thinking,or that he will slip back to being the crazy alarmist moonbat we all know so well.

We may know by next week.

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11-25-2009, 08:18 AM
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Friends:

Monbiot is one extreme AGW-promoter journalist who seems to be having a degree of conversion.

Monbiot has repeatedly vilified those of us who have been championing the cause of science against the unfounded climate scare. He is not alone in such behaviour.

Climate realists and our work have been vilified and smeared. Entire web sites have been established to tell lies about us.
Publication of our scientific work has been inhibited.
And personal attacks have been the norm: for example, I have had computer systems damaged by concerted attacks, Lomborg has had a pie pushed in his face, some (e.g. Tenekes, Michaels, etc.) have had their employment terminated, and Tim Ball has had death threats.

Monbiot seems to be covering himself now what has been happening is plain for all to see as a result of the stolen (?) CRU files having been released. Other journalists are saying nothing about CRUdGATE while waiting to see if it blows over or they, too, should 'jump ship'.

Jones, Briffa and Mann seem to have committed several criminal offences. These include:

Misappropriation of public funds
They deliberately falsified data then used the results of the falsification to obtain additional research funding. This is criminal fraud under English Law.

Deliberate attempt to prevent disclosure of information that was requested under the FOI Act
They colluded to destroy information that was the subject of an FOI request. This is a criminal offence under English Law.

These two offences will do for starters, but there are others, too. Indeed, both of the above offences can be doubled by charging the alleged miscreants with conspiracy in each case.

Jones, Briffa and Mann should be prosecuted as a warning to others who would pervert science as a method to promote a political agenda.

However, there is little probability that the Crown Prosecution Service will charge the alleged miscreants. It is more likely that the alleged miscreants will be awarded Knighthoods.

And those like Monbiot who colluded in all of this will say, “We did not know”.

In a side meeting organised by Fred Singer at an IPCC Meeting in London in 2001 I said;
"When the 'chickens come home to roost' - as they surely will with efluxion of time - the journalists and politicians won't say, "It was our fault". They will say, it was the scientists' fault", and that's me, and I object!".

I can still see no reason to change that opinion.

Richard
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11-25-2009, 08:57 AM
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Senator Inhofe has called for an investigation here is America.It remains to be seen if the investigation will indeed take place and the misconduct of the people who are in those e-mails,can be exposed wide enough to compel the British government to finally launch an investigation of their own.

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11-25-2009, 09:32 AM
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(11-25-2009 08:18 AM)Richard S Courtney. Wrote:  Friends:

Monbiot is one extreme AGW-promoter journalist who seems to be having a degree of conversion.

Monbiot has repeatedly vilified those of us who have been championing the cause of science against the unfounded climate scare. He is not alone in such behaviour.

Climate realists and our work have been vilified and smeared. Entire web sites have been established to tell lies about us.
Publication of our scientific work has been inhibited.
And personal attacks have been the norm: for example, I have had computer systems damaged by concerted attacks, Lomborg has had a pie pushed in his face, some (e.g. Tenekes, Michaels, etc.) have had their employment terminated, and Tim Ball has had death threats.

There is a book in there somewhere.
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11-25-2009, 11:14 AM
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RE: Even Monbiot says the science now needs “reanalyising”
(11-25-2009 08:18 AM)Richard S Courtney. Wrote:  I can still see no reason to change that opinion.

Richard

Me neither.

However, I can see reason to share that opinion.

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