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What does Average Temperature Mean?
02-12-2010, 08:13 PM
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What does Average Temperature Mean?
YouTube LINK

6:55 long.

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02-12-2010, 08:31 PM
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RE: What does Average Temperature Mean?
I saw that, too.

Very interesting.

Just one more aspect along with UHI effect, missing station data, moved stations, etc. that makes it questionable that we really have a reasonable handle on what the climate is doing - either warming or cooling.

I suspect warming which continues from the recovery of the LIA.

But exactly how much? Or even "exactly" plus/minus say 1 tenth of a degree?

Not based on what we are being told by the keepers of the records, that's for sure.

Maybe by the actual records, if they can ever be analyzed by scientists who want the truth rather than the current group who seem to want to manipulate the data to show what they believe it should show.

I know you think you understand what you thought I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant!
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02-12-2010, 08:52 PM
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RE: What does Average Temperature Mean?
If the presentation is reasonably accurate and that it is similar results on a wordlwide basis,then Patrick Michaels who specifically pointed out the night time warming trend,way back in about 1991 as the main source of warming effect,was already on the right track!

He was responding to James Hansen's 20 year climate projection claims.

LOL

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02-13-2010, 04:11 AM
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RE: What does Average Temperature Mean?
What does Average Temperature Mean?

B**GER ALL apparently.
Much like global average CO2, etc, etc, etc, etc...

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The hobgoblins have to be imaginary so that
"they" can offer their solutions, not THE solutions.
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02-13-2010, 12:23 PM
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RE: What does Average Temperature Mean?
(02-13-2010 04:11 AM)Derek Wrote:  What does Average Temperature Mean?

B**GER ALL apparently.
Much like global average CO2, etc, etc, etc, etc...

It means that the warming trend was at night and little else.

Thus by this angle,AGW has nothing to with it since the daytime highs are essentially unchanged.

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